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What does "this" refer to? Does it refer to "that"?

 
 
Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 06:45 am

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This lecture is the intellectual property of Professor S.W.Hawking. You may not reproduce, edit, translate, distribute, publish or host this document in any way with out the permission of Professor Hawking.

Note that there may be incorrect spellings, punctuation and/or grammar in this document. This is to allow correct pronunciation and timing by a speech synthesiser.

More:
http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 07:32 am
"Note that" means "notice" or "be aware", the "that" there is part of the idiom.
oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 07:35 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

"Note that" means "notice" or "be aware", the "that" there is part of the idiom.


Well, the question is What does "this" refer to?
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InfraBlue
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 10:55 am
Quote:
What does "this" refer to? Does it refer to "that"?

Specifically, "this" refers to “incorrect spellings, punctuation and/or grammar in this document .”

“That,” refers to the thing specified as follows, in this case, “incorrect spellings, punctuation and/or grammar in this document .”
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 01:57 pm
@oristarA,
Quote:
Note that


= Note that the following may occur.
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 03:28 pm
@oristarA,
Quote:
Well, the question is What does "this" refer to?


To the purposeful inclusion of those errors
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 04:19 pm
@oristarA,
This refers to that.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 09:11 pm
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:


Note that there may be incorrect spellings, punctuation and/or grammar in this document. This is to allow correct pronunciation and timing by a speech synthesiser.
More:
http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html


Now we have confirmed "this = that." The new question is:

If this refers to "incorrect spellings, punctuation etc," a speech synthesiser will not have the correct pronunciation and timing. But the context says "this" is to allow correct pronunciation... What? It sounds ridiculous to me.
What do you say?
ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 09:14 pm
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:
Now we have confirmed "this = that."


Incorrect.

"That" does not stand alone in the sentence. It is part of an idiom "note that".

Drop "note that" completely and then see if you understand the meaning of "this".



oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 09:18 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

oristarA wrote:
Now we have confirmed "this = that."


Incorrect.

"That" does not stand alone in the sentence. It is part of an idiom "note that".

Drop "note that" completely and then see if you understand the meaning of "this".



That refers to the clause "there may be incorrect spellings, punctuation and/or grammar in this document." Thus that = this.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 09:20 pm
@oristarA,
Incorrect.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 09:21 pm
@MontereyJack,
Pay attention to what Monterey Jack has already told you.


MontereyJack wrote:

"Note that" means "notice" or "be aware", the "that" there is part of the idiom.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 09:23 pm
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:

Note that


You continue to have problems with idioms and try to split them into individual words to understand them.

Note that is an idiom.
oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 09:25 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

oristarA wrote:

Note that


You continue to have problems with idioms and try to split them into individual words to understand them.

Note that is an idiom.


Thank you.
I've reselected Select Answer.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 09:26 pm
Now the new question:

If this refers to "incorrect spellings, punctuation etc," a speech synthesiser will not have the correct pronunciation and timing. But the context says "this" is to allow correct pronunciation... What? It sounds ridiculous to me.
What do you say?
ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 09:28 pm
@oristarA,
The lecture is mean to be heard, not read.

The incorrect spellings allow the speech synthesizer to pronounce the words correctly.




Are you familiar with speech synthesizer programs?
oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 11:05 pm
@ehBeth,
Got it.
But correct spellings can be read by a synthesiser correctly as well.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 31 May, 2013 11:18 pm
@oristarA,
English speakers have a wide range of accents.

Speech synthesizers can be set to have different voices and accents.

You need to enter the spellings and punctuation that give you the rhythm and accent you want. Sometimes those spellings are not correct - they reflect the argument that some of us have had with omsigdavid. He likes to use phonetic spelling - but his version of phonetic spelling only works for his particular accent.
oristarA
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2013 12:16 am
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

English speakers have a wide range of accents.

Speech synthesizers can be set to have different voices and accents.

You need to enter the spellings and punctuation that give you the rhythm and accent you want. Sometimes those spellings are not correct - they reflect the argument that some of us have had with omsigdavid. He likes to use phonetic spelling - but his version of phonetic spelling only works for his particular accent.



I wonder why David has vanished? The old dog always refused to budge in his insistence of particular spellings.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2013 08:06 am
To be perfectly clear, "let me say this about that".
 

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