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English to Latin translation help Please.

 
 
jdstabe
 
Reply Wed 8 May, 2013 05:38 pm
I would like to get this as a tattoo, but I want an accurate traslation into Latin. Can anyone help?
Here is is:
"Your world will burn. But you were born of fire."
 
George
 
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Reply Wed 8 May, 2013 07:15 pm
@jdstabe,
Mundus tuus ardebit. Sed de igneo natus es.
Please read this.
jdstabe
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 04:57 am
@George,
Thank you, George! This is good stuff. I know your the expert here. So what is the difference between that and "Vestras mundi exuret. Sed de igneo natus es."
George
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 07:17 am
@jdstabe,
The difference is that one was translated by a human, and the other is the
output of Google Translate.
George
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 08:53 am
@George,
Besides a dictionary database, Google uses existing translations of Latin
works in its translator. This makes it very helpful getting the gist of
Latin-to-English, but it is less effective going English-to-Latin. Sometimes
it gets the translation right, other times it fails.

Consider "Your world will burn." The subject of the sentence is "world" and
therefore it should be in the nominative case, mundus. For some reason
Google used mundi, which is genitive singular ("of the world") or
nominative plural ("worlds"). "World" is modified by "your". In English we
don't distinguish singular and plural of "your", but in Latin we do. The
singular is tuus and the plural is vester. I used the singular because in
context it appeared the sentences were addressed to a single person.
Since the adjective agrees with the noun it modifies in case, number,
and gender, I use the nominative, singular, masculine form tuus.
Google used the accusative, plural, feminine form vestras. Who knows why?
"Will burn" is the verb. This is an intransitive form of "burn". That is to say, it
means something is on fire rather than that someone or something sets
something else on fire, which latter would be transitive. Thus I chose
the verb ardeo, which has this intransitive sense. Google chose exuro,
which is most often used in the transitive sense.

jdstabe
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 01:32 pm
@George,
Wow thank you for the detailed response! This really helped. I have never studied Latin so I wasn't sure how the different cases worked and why google was giving me weird translations so this definitely helped! I appreciate it.
George
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 04:41 pm
@jdstabe,
You're very welcome jdstabe.
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Alexandra-treevera
 
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Reply Thu 16 May, 2013 11:36 am
@George,
@George, I have been trying to translate " all sin starts with self" into Latin and keep getting different answers. Some leave the English word sin in and others don't. Can you help me out please.
George
 
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Reply Fri 17 May, 2013 09:50 am
@Alexandra-treevera,
"all sin starts with self"
I would say:
Omnia peccata a se ipso incipiunt.
Alexandra-treevera
 
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Reply Sat 18 May, 2013 09:46 am
@George,
Thank you so much!!!!
George
 
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Reply Sat 18 May, 2013 11:50 am
@Alexandra-treevera,
My pleasure, Alexandra-treevera.
Alexandra-treevera
 
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Reply Sat 18 May, 2013 07:02 pm
@George,
Just curious, the online translation says: omne peccatum incipit a se.
George
 
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Reply Sun 19 May, 2013 01:18 pm
@Alexandra-treevera,
omne peccatum -- (singular) is used in the sense of "every"
omnia peccata -- (plural) is used in the sense of "all"

Incipit -- the singular verb
Incipiunt -- the plural verb.

The order of the words in a sentence in Latin is less important than in
English. The translation you got from the automated translator is
surprisingly good.
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