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Tue 7 May, 2013 06:43 am
Google shows only one hit for "the presumption of innocence before guilt being proved."
I don't understand.
What expression form are you native speakers used to use?
"the concept of innocence before being proved guilty"?
540 hits for this. No common at all.
Well, 17,700 hits for "innocent before being proved guilty."
Not very common.
@oristarA,
try substituting proven for proved in your searches
@oristarA,
I can't answer this question unless I see more context.
"Innocent until proven guilty" is the most common form (in my opinion).
Ori!!
You should know better than to throw out phrases and ask for an interpretation.
All this depends on HOW these phrases are used in the sentence. We need context!!
One possibility may be:
the presumption of "innocence before guilt" being proved.
@PUNKEY,
Now proceed to rap Ori's knuckles.
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
I can't answer this question unless I see more context.
"Innocent until proven guilty" is the most common form (in my opinion).
Yeah! 4,680,000 hits for this!
Thank you all.
@oristarA,
Quote:"Innocent until proven guilty" is the most common form
Yeah! 4,680,000 hits for this!
Okay, but it contains an error. Legally (in this country) anyone accused of a crime is entitled to a
presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
So "innocent until proven guilty" is a misleading phrase.
@McTag,
Not around here, the presumption part is used but rarely.
Anyone arrested or accused of a crime is innocent until proven guilty.
Joe(Now take these cuffs off)Nation
@McTag,
That is really nitpicking, McTag. Everyone knows what "innocent until proven guilty" means (as long as it doesn't apply to Muslims or Mexican immigrants).
I think McTag has put it in a scholar'sway.
And Joe follows the principle of pragmatism.
That is British vs. American - Theoretical vs. Proctical. As I've always said.
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
That is really nitpicking, McTag. Everyone knows what "innocent until proven guilty" means (as long as it doesn't apply to Muslims or Mexican immigrants).
Going academic is to be nitpicking, of course.
@oristarA,
Quote:That is British vs. American - Theoretical vs. Practical. As I've always said.
In a nutshell, sir.
We've got the brains, and they, the brawn.
@McTag,
McTag wrote:
Quote:That is British vs. American - Theoretical vs. Practical. As I've always said.
In a nutshell, sir.
We've got
the brains, and they,
the brawn.
Perfect!
Look forward for Joe's shining subtle reply.
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