Why can pp. stand for pages?

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[+3] - Setanta - 05/02/2013It's just a conventional abbreviation.

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It's just a conventional abbreviation.

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@Setanta,

I remember Sister Atilla telling us that the latin phrase "per procura" was where the abbreviation came from. (We had to do a segment of "Latin in our lives" )

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I'm not sure your Hunish nun was correct. The Latin phrase per procurationem means by agency, is abbreviate PP (always capitalized) and is used when an agent is signing for a principle.

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Who would like to explain what does "signing for a principle" mean? A formality of signing based on a principle?

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@oristarA,

Farmerman owns Bullshit Geological Surveys, LLC. He is the Principle, the bull goose loony, the Number One Dude. Setanta is his business manager, who is authorized to sign off on certain documents on behalf of Farmerman, such as contracts for bullshit geological testing supplies. So, when Setanta signs such a contract, he signs Setanta, PP, which means he is the agent of Farmerman (the Principle) who is authorized to sign for him.

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My mistake, the word i wanted was Principal, not principle.

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

My mistake, the word i wanted was Principal, not principle.

That's it. It's easy to understand now.

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@oristarA,

In this case, an agent may be authorized to sign for his principle, who has granted that authority. I don't doubt Setanta's explanation, but it might be more complicated than absolutely necessary.

In any case, pp does abbreviate for pages. Two pbecause it is plural. Page 24 is singular so it can be written as p. 24.

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@Setanta,

Actually, the reduplication of a letter (here: 'p' for "pagina" indicates pluralisation [plural of pagina is paginae].)

Differently, "p. 251f" indicates material on page 251 continuing on the following page (which would be page 252). But "p. 251ff" means that relevant material can be found in areas on page 66 and several pages following. ('f' = folio, "leaf/page")

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@Walter Hinteler,

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But "p. 251ff" means that relevant material can be found in areas on page 66 and several pages following. ('f' = folio, "leaf/page")

Do you have to have a special decoder ring to figure that out, Walter?

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@oristarA,

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Who would like to explain what does "signing for a principle" means?

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@JTT,

Certainly not. But when you change the "page 66" to "page 251" it makes perhaps more sense.

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@Walter Hinteler,

I am amazed that Sister Attila has left me with an incorrect root for pp. It seems that the on;y way I may see this in print is either, as set said PP, or , as the dictionary of Latin Phrases p.p.. SO if you see two priods, its a business document.

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Why can pp. stand for pages?

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