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Fellow Bostonians: How many of us wished we had an assault weapon last night?

 
 
oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:01 am
@InfraBlue,
Not exactly. For that to be an example of the military implementing pistol grips, someone would have to provide evidence that the military actually implemented those pistol grips.

No one has provided any such evidence.
InfraBlue
 
  2  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:03 am
@oralloy,
You're merely repeating your opinion.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:05 am
@InfraBlue,
That is incorrect. My post stated a fact.

Facts are always inconvenient to the left, but they remain facts nonetheless.

https://patcrosscartoons.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/the-facts1.jpg
oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:07 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
Nuh-uh.

Wrong again. You cannot provide any motivation for outlawing pistol grips other than the fact that progressives enjoy violating people's civil liberties.

The reason why you cannot provide such evidence is because there is no other motivation. Progressives simply enjoy violating people's civil liberties.

You also cannot provide any evidence that any of these features make a weapon especially dangerous. This is because these features do not make a weapon especially dangerous.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:08 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
So then, why does the military implement these features in their weaponry?

I've yet to see any evidence that the military is implementing these features.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:09 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
Baldimo wrote:
You will have to tell me that, you are the one's who have a problem with those items.

The military has a feature on their weapons that a civilian will never have, a selective fire switch, without that, the weapons of a civilian and the military are not the same.

It's not "to give the willies," as Glennn would have us believe?

A selective fire switch is considerably different from a pistol grip and a bayonet mount.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:11 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
I've already explained why pistol-grips, flash suppressors and other such features make a rifle especially dangerous; it's because it makes a rifle more effective in its purpose.

I've not seen any evidence that they make guns more effective. But that's beside the point. "Being more effective" does not mean that a weapon is "especially dangerous."

"Especially dangerous" means that a weapon is far more dangerous than an ordinary gun.
InfraBlue
 
  2  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:11 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
Thanks for explaining your all's alternate language.

No alternate language. That is regular English language.

In your mind, that is.


oralloy wrote:
InfraBlue wrote:
Heh, you're telling me what I mean to say. You're a card.

It is what your words mean in the English language.

In your alternate English, that is. That is not what I meant, nonetheless.

oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
You're making the comparison, not I.

I did not make any comparison.

Yes, you did. Saying flash suppressors verses longer barrels is making a comparison.

oralloy wrote:
I merely asked you to explain why you attribute some kind of significance to the use of a flash suppressor.

I already have.
InfraBlue
 
  2  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:12 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Not exactly. For that to be an example of the military implementing pistol grips, someone would have to provide evidence that the military actually implemented those pistol grips.

No one has provided any such evidence.

You're talking in circles.
InfraBlue
 
  2  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:14 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

That is incorrect. My post stated a fact.

In your mind only.
InfraBlue
 
  2  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:15 am
@oralloy,
Nuh-uh.
InfraBlue
 
  2  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:17 am
@oralloy,
See the example I've provided.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:18 am
@InfraBlue,
Your example was devoid of evidence.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:19 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
In your mind only.

That is incorrect. I posted a fact in reality.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:20 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
What you're asking for is ridiculous because you'd need a controlled experiment to answer your question. That's much like the tobacco companies saying that there is no proof that smoking causes cancer because there are no controlled experiments proving that it does, that all we have are inferences.

It's not ridiculous to ask you to back up your claims.

You shouldn't make claims that you cannot back up.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:21 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
Nuh-uh.

Wrong again. You have consistently failed to provide any motivation for outlawing pistol grips other than the fact that progressives enjoy violating people's civil liberties.

You have consistently failed to to provide any evidence that any of these features make a weapon especially dangerous.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:25 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
A pistol grip allows for faster and more accurate shooting.

Says who?


InfraBlue wrote:
So then you don't think a pistol grip is an ergonomic improvement?

What does it matter even if it is?
InfraBlue
 
  2  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:26 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
Baldimo wrote:
You will have to tell me that, you are the one's who have a problem with those items.

The military has a feature on their weapons that a civilian will never have, a selective fire switch, without that, the weapons of a civilian and the military are not the same.

It's not "to give the willies," as Glennn would have us believe?

A selective fire switch is considerably different from a pistol grip and a bayonet mount.

So then, pistol grips and bayonet mounts are implemented by the military "to give the willies," as Glennn would have us believe, but not selective fire switches. OK.
InfraBlue
 
  2  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:28 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
I've already explained why pistol-grips, flash suppressors and other such features make a rifle especially dangerous; it's because it makes a rifle more effective in its purpose.

I've not seen any evidence that they make guns more effective. But that's beside the point. "Being more effective" does not mean that a weapon is "especially dangerous."

In regard to my position, yes, it does.

oralloy wrote:
"Especially dangerous" means that a weapon is far more dangerous than an ordinary gun.

Thank you for explaining your usage of the term.
InfraBlue
 
  2  
Thu 5 Dec, 2019 12:30 am
@oralloy,
The M4 carbine is evidence.
 

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