Fellow Bostonians: How many of us wished we had an assault weapon last night?

@McTag,

McTag wrote:

What are you afraid of? Have you met it yet, in fifty years?
If not, your guns seem to keeping it away just fine.

Americans seldom get guns because of fear.

We're free people. Most of the time when we get guns, the reason is "because we feel like it".

(Though if someone were actually fearful, getting a gun might indeed be a logical choice.)

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@oralloy,

Funny how they seem to always contradict themselves; they say more people should own guns "to protect themselves and their family."

When facts are presented that gun ownership kills more family members, they ignore those stats.

They don't know where they stand on guns; only that it's their second amendment rights. jeeesh!

Second Amendment rights to kill your own family members intentionally or by accident. It's a lethal weapon.

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@oralloy,

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Americans seldom get guns because of fear.

Ever seen those wacko Doomsday Preppers? Americans are probably the most fearful people on the planet because they've been led, child like to fear whatever their governments tell them to fear. Just the words our national security can make USians **** their pants.

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We're free people.

Another pernicious lie.

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@cicerone imposter,

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hen facts are presented that gun ownership kills more family members, they ignore those stats.

Somehow I question those figures but even if true the fact is that the guns under my control or my wife control and people like us, the vast majority of gun owners, are not a risk to anyone other then in cases of life and death self defense.

With the numbers of guns in households it can not be otherwise or the hospitals would be overrun in short order.

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@oralloy,

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(Though if someone were actually fearful, getting a gun might indeed be a logical choice.)

I am about as fearful of needing a firearm for self defense as I am of having a fire in my home and therefore having fire extinguishers in the home.

One thing fire extinguishers are not the fun to go to the range with for a few hours that firearms are.

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@McTag,

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Why do you care? Actually, I recognise that guns are seductive and attractive. I wanted one up until I was about fourteen. Then I grew up.

Then you grew up and realized that you were not mature enough to understand personal rights, personal protection and the dedication it takes to be a responsible gun owner. Practicing your fundamentals and keeping your weapons clean.

Living here in CO I am an avid shooter, weather pending, and I know a lot of people who enjoy shooting just as much as I do. I know people from all walks of life who enjoy shooting sports and personal defense training, men and women alike, to suggest that we are immature is proving you don't understand gun culture or guns. If you want to have an effect on gun violence you need to look at where the crimes are happening and effect change there. We can already look at Chicago and prove that restrictive gun laws don't prevent crime. Limiting the rights of people in surrounding area's ie: Indiana and Wisconsin in the case of Chicago isn't going to solve Chicago's problems since those states don't have the crime problems that Chicago does. It would be like leveling a whole forest just to get 2 squirrels. You might get the squirrels but you wasted a whole forest on a hunch. To be honest it isn't even the whole city of Chicago but a grouping of area's in the city.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

H2O MAN wrote:
How would you feel if gun laws made personal gun ownership mandatory?

Why do you care?

I suspect he was trying to get you to recognize your error in trying to choose for other people whether or not they have guns.

I'm sure that if you recognized their right to have guns if they feel like it, most gun rights advocates would be happy to recognize your right to not have a gun if that's what you choose.

McTag wrote:

Actually, I recognise that guns are seductive and attractive. I wanted one up until I was about fourteen. Then I grew up.

The notion that freedom is something childish to be outgrown is silly.

Seductive? Nonsense.

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

oralloy wrote:
Americans seldom get guns because of fear.

Ever seen those wacko Doomsday Preppers?

I haven't watched any of the TV shows about them, but I am somewhat aware of the survivalist movement.

I don't know that they are exactly fearful. It's just that they like to be prepared in case disaster strikes.

Think of it as a hobby.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:
hen facts are presented that gun ownership kills more family members, they ignore those stats.

Somehow I question those figures

Wise choice.

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@oralloy,

When hurricane Sandy happened how many people, who were part of the prepper community, didn't have any issues with food and supplies? Think of the story of the Ants and the Grasshopper?

Even the CDC said "If you are prepared for the zombie apocalypse then you should be prepared for any emergency."

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Speaking of fire extinguishers after doing a little bit of research it would seems that under the same theories as the anti guns people would like to ban guns we could made a case to ban fire extinguishers.

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http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-06-21/news/9506210196_1_laundry-room-fire-extinguisher-torso

Investigators said Tuesday that they believe a fire extinguisher was used to kill Ami Michelle Faro in a basement laundry room near her Zion home last weekend.

Police have not found the extinguisher, which was hanging in a room just outside the laundry room, but did find its pull pin in Faro's hair, authorities said. What appeared to be bloody impressions of the extinguisher also were found nearby on towels and on a rug, sources close to the investigation said.

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http://wreg.com/2012/09/06/millington-mother-says-she-murder-daughter-with-fire-extinguisher/

Millington, TN) According to Kathy Webber she attacked and beat her disabled daughter Shaneka.
In a confession to police Webber said she hit her daughter in the head with a fire extinguisher several times until she died.
Police say Webber never called for help and tried to cover up the murder by hiding her bloody clothes in the bathtub wrapped in a blanket.
“She seemed like a normal person to me! I mean you never know what might have happened she may have done it in a fit of rage!” said neighbor Carl Holland.
“I don`t like it worth a damn if you want to know the truth because is supposed to be the best trailer park in Millington,” said Holland.
Joshua Stewart says he always thought Kathy Webber was a nice lady and shocked by the news, “It`s actually really surprising knowing the fact that someone was murdered just down the street from where you live.”
Neighbors also say they never saw Shaneka and may not see Kathy Webber for a while. She’s is in jail and no bond has been set.

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@Baldimo,

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hen hurricane Sandy happened how many people, who were part of the prepper community, didn't have any issues with food and supplies? Think of the story of the Ants and the Grasshopper?

Over the decades I had taken note that I more often then not am the one offering aid to others.

From jumper cables, to putting out an engine fire in a sport car, to providing a few kilowatts of electric to my neighbors after a storm knocked out the local power grid for a few days.

I can just see the same kinds of comments being posted in relationship to having guns as to other precautions as in why are you so fearful of your car battery not working that you carry jumper cables or having a car fire that you carry a fire extinguisher in your car or that the power company will not always be providing power to you that you have not one but two generators?

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

Actually, I recognise that guns are seductive and attractive.

Really?

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@H2O MAN,

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Really?

Of course. You don't think that? Gun porn abounds everywhere.

Even without the extremes of gun porn, from films without number, from Shane to The Terminator to Death Wish and beyond, in Ian Fleming's books and the Bond films, everywhere in western popular culture. Guns help sell the product.
And it's a short step to guns becoming the product, that icon of desire.

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@McTag,

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Of course. You don't think that? Gun porn abounds everywhere.

That is why movies that cover the Roman period or the middle age period are so popular due to all the guns they have in them? LOL

Human conflicts/weapons with or without firearms are of interest to humans but once more it all about guns in your mind at least and without guns there would not be large scale human conflicts or interest in large scale human conflicts.

We are predators/hunters that used tools/weapons as we are not equip with the degree of build in weapons as other predators are and as a result we are drawn to all weapons from a knife to a bow to a firearms.

A sword call to us in the same manner as a AR-15 or any other weapon so once more there is nothing in that regard special about firearms.

See the over the top movies Kill Bill one and two as an example of this as it the swords that hold the main interest in that movie.

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@BillRM,

I think Alan Ladd and John Wayne outvote your Roman guys by quite a way.

But you have a point. Weapons of all kinds are seductive. Bows, crossbows, knives, guns, and heavier ordnance.

Feeling insignificant? Want to bolster your self-esteem? Think you ought to be able to punch above your weight? Want to feel a bit of a maverick? Afraid of what might be under the bed? Distrust your neighbours? Get a gun.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

Feeling insignificant? Want to bolster your self-esteem? Think you ought to be able to punch above your weight? Want to feel a bit of a maverick? Afraid of what might be under the bed? Distrust your neighbours? Get a gun.

Why do Freedom Haters always demean those who exercise their civil rights?

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@oralloy,

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Why do Freedom Haters always demean those who exercise their civil rights?

Because they have nothing else to back up their positions?

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@oralloy,

Isn't it people like this who are the one's that claim the other's use scare tactic's to get them to side with them?

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@McTag,

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Feeling insignificant? Want to bolster your self-esteem? Think you ought to be able to punch above your weight? Want to feel a bit of a maverick? Afraid of what might be under the bed? Distrust your neighbours? Get a gun.

Without a love of weapons/hunting tools we would be either be extinct by the last ice age or limited to some caves in a few small areas of the world.

It took weapon technology and team work to hunt and killed mammoths that weight in at ten tons in order to keep alive during the last ice age for example.

Love of weapons/hunting tools had zero to do with 1950s movies as it predate those movies by at least 18 thousands or so when someone invented the first atlatl.

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