@JTT,
you and mm can google as easily as I can
@chai2,
chai2 wrote:Ehbeth, when someone asks you a point blank question, what do you have against just giving a simple reply?
there is no such thing as a simple reply with you
I'd forgotten. I won't forget again.
@ehBeth,
Precisely, Beth. Which raises the obvious question - why wouldn't you share that information with the rest of us?
And here's your chance!!
Ross Caputi
http://able2know.org/topic/212979-1
@ehBeth,
I think Chai misunderstood what you were trying to say, Beth. No sense getting in a snit over it.
@ehBeth,
Not pushing on the story, just the writers apparent lack of knowledge.
@mysteryman,
Quote:Not pushing on the story, just the writers apparent lack of knowledge.
tongue pushed deeply into cheek, head nodding.
Tell us another one, MM.
Why would you pick on this one silly little issue to illustrate how ignorant you are of the actual subject?
Should you care to learn more,
http://able2know.org/topic/212979-1
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:
chai2 wrote:Ehbeth, when someone asks you a point blank question, what do you have against just giving a simple reply?
there is no such thing as a simple reply with you
I'd forgotten. I won't forget again.
beth, wtf are you talking about?
all it is with me is simple replies.
i.e. "yes, I agree with you"
is that so hard?
Like now "I'd forgotten. I won't forget again"
Forgotten what?
Spit it out for christ's sake.
Miss cryptic message know only to herself strikes again.
Do me a favor and put me on ignore, would you?
@Butrflynet,
Never let a crisis deprive you of a conspiracy theory.
@Finn dAbuzz,
You think that none of this happens, Finn?
Quote:There hasn't been much reporting of the Exxon pipeline spill in Arkansas either. That happened way before the Marathon bombings. Big oil has been doing their best to use their influence and ad buying power to pressure media into squelching any reports or images of the disaster there because they don't want it to taint the Keystone votes they've bought.
I strongly suspect, there is something similar happening regarding the fertilizer explosion and the chemical industry.
Governor Perry appears to believe that government has no right to tax citizens to regulate businesses. He and his rubber stamp followers wipe out every such thing they can.
I took this off of facebook without verifying the story.
So Westboro "Baptist Church" showed up here in Texas at the memorial service in West for the first responders who lost their lives in the explosion. The Chief of Police promptly had all 20 or so of them arrested and put into holding cells (all the men in one and all the women in another) When they told him he couldn't do that, he let them know HE could. Since he hadn't officially charged them, he could hold them for 24 hours before he had to charge them or let them go! (plenty of time to hold the memorial service). I guess Westboro didn't think it through too well... This is Texas. As quickly as we fry people down here, did they really think they would be allowed to show that kind of disrespect?? Their photos were also released to the other small towns surrounding West, where services would be denied to them.
@edgarblythe,
See ed there are some Texan ways of which you can be proud.
@edgarblythe,
Quote:I took this off of facebook without verifying the story.
It really wouldn't have taken much, Ed. The US propaganda system relies on this kind of laziness and haziness.
Like the silly notion that the US invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq was anything less than major war crimes.
Quote:Similarly, it is uncontroversial that Bush and associates did commit the “supreme international crime” - the crime of aggression. That crime was defined clearly enough by Justice Robert Jackson, Chief of Counsel for the United States at Nuremberg. An “aggressor,” Jackson proposed to the Tribunal in his opening statement, is a state that is the first to commit such actions as “
nvasion of its armed forces, with or without a declaration of war, of the territory of another State ...” No one, even the most extreme supporter of the aggression, denies that Bush and associates did just that.
We might also do well to recall Jackson’s eloquent words at Nuremberg on the principle of universality: “If certain acts in violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us.”
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/09/20119775453842191.html
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So Westboro "Baptist Church" showed up here in Texas at the memorial service in West for the first responders who lost their lives in the explosion. The Chief of Police promptly had all 20 or so of them arrested and put into holding cells (all the men in one and all the women in another)
PROBABLY FALSE
//www.snopes.com/politics/religion/wbctexas.asp
Quote:The church [Westboro Baptist Church] is also campaigning for the United States to change its official name to "the United States Of Terror"
They've certainly got a valid point there, but for all the wrong reasons.
by Jeremy Rogalski & Andrew Horansky / KHOU 11 News & KHOU.com staff
khou.com
Posted on May 10, 2013 at 8:33 AM
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WEST, Texas — A West EMS technician was arrested early Friday and charged with possession of a destructive device.
Bryce Reed, 31, was booked into the McLennan County Jail and appeared before a federal magistrate judge in Waco Friday morning.
A tip first led McLennan County Sheriff's deputies to a home in Abbott that belongs to Reed's friend. On May 7, they searched the home and found an assortment of bomb-making components.
The owner of the home said Reed brought them there and asked him to store them about a week after the West explosion that killed 14 people. The homeowner told investigators he had no idea what they were. He has not been charged.
The components included a three-and-a-half-inch long galvanized metal pipe that had galvanized end caps attached. In addition, they found canisters containing an unknown amount of hobby fuse, a lighter, a digital scale, plastic spoon, six coils of metal ribbon and several pounds of chemical powders in individual bags.
ATF experts examined the contents and agreed they could be readily assembled into a destructive device; particularly a pipe bomb. They determined Reed was the owner of the materials and placed him under arrest.
There is no confirmation that Reed’s arrest is related to the April 17th plant explosion that injured more than 200 people.
The McLennan County Sheriff announced Friday that he asked the Texas Rangers to join the criminal investigation.
"We want to do a very thorough investigation, so we’ve asked the Texas Rangers to come in and assist," said McLellan County Sheriff Parnell McNamara.
The sheriff said it's just a coincidence that he asked for assistance on the same day Reed was arrested.
"At this time, we don’t have any information at all that ties this incident to the explosion in West," McLellan said.
Federal sources say they haven't ruled it out.
ATF agents were spotted at the homes of some of Reed’s relatives on Friday.
Twelve of the 14 victims who died in the West explosion were first responders.
Reed, who treated some of the victims, spoke to the media frequently in the aftermath of the explosion.
"I can tell you there’s absolutely no words that I possess that can convey adequately what I saw," Reed told CNN. "It went from my hometown and my reality and my existence to a war zone in an instant, and I haven’t even had time to process that yet."
During the April 25th memorial in Waco, he gave a previously recorded eulogy for firefighter Cyrus Reed, the man he called his best friend.
"Cyrus was on fire for life," Reed said. "He wasn't ready to die."
But Cyrus Reed’s sister, Sarah, told the Dallas Morning News Friday that her family was fooled by Bryce Reed into thinking they were close.
"He is not part of our family," Sarah Reed said.
She also told the newspaper she suspected Bryce Reed of stealing from her dead brother.
Bryce Reed recently posted on his Facebook page: "It seems every time I turn around somebody is critiquing me."
He also denied accusations that he profited from donations meant for victims of the explosion.
"I’ve not received one cent for anything," Reed said on Facebook.
Two days ago, Reed posted that he was going to take a break from Facebook to reflect.
"I assure you that I’m okay," he wrote.
Reed has worked for West EMS for 10 years.
Reed remains in federal custody pending a detention hearing on May 15. If convicted, he faces up to 10 years in federal prison and a maximum $250,000 fine.
The Texas Fire Marshal's office is still investigating what caused the April 17 fire and explosion, which killed 14 and injured more than 160 in the town of 2,800, about 76 miles south of Dallas.
On Friday, McLennan County Sheriff's officials and the Texas Department of Public Safety announced that they had opened a criminal investigation into the explosion.
Officials would not say whether they had linked Reed to the blast.
In his Saturday statement, Reed denied causing the explosion.
"Mr. Reed had no involvement whatsoever in the explosion at the West, Texas, fertilizer plant. Mr. Reed was one of the first responders and lost friends, family, and neighbors in that disaster. Mr. Reed is heartbroken for the friends he lost and remains resolute in his desire to assist in the rebuilding of his community," the statement said.
Reed had become a visible figure in West after the disaster, speaking to the media, including The Times, about losing a close friend: firefighter Cyrus Reed, 29, of Abbott, whom he also spoke about at a memorial last month. The paramedic appeared to face criticism and responded on his Facebook page by saying he was not trying to profit from the disaster.
"We ask that Mr. Reed's family, friends, and community not rush to judgment," the Saturday statement said. "Mr. Reed has been through significant hardship in the wake of the disaster in West and he has responded and served his community with honor and strength."
Reed remained at McLennan County Jail without bond Saturday pending a hearing at 2 p.m. Wednesday in Waco, Sibley said. If convicted, Reed could face up to a decade in federal prison and a maximum $250,000 fine.
