Guns And The Laws That Govern Them

@RexRed,

RexRed wrote:

In know technically you are right but technically you are not right.

The NRA receives their greatest contributions directly from gun manufacturers. Where AAA does not receive funding from car manufacturers...

You wanna bet the NRA sells guns, though indirectly, their entire existence, like a leach, is dependent on gun sales and contributions from manufacturers thereof.

If automobiles were to suddenly fall out of favor with consumers, the car manufacturers would not pay AAA to remedy the problem by lobbying elected officials.

Does the NRA Represent Gun Manufacturers or Gun Owners?
Read more: Does the NRA Represent Gun Manufacturers or Gun Owners? | The Nation http://www.thenation.com/blog/171776/does-nra-represent-gun-manufacturers-or-gun-owners#ixzz2WSzYuLjq

Thank u, Rex.
The goal of the freedom-loving community is to restore
the status quo ante: the freedom of the 18OOs,
so that everyone will carry his guns the same
as he carries his wallet everywhere, un-questioned.
That helps EVERYONE, including manufacturers,
except that it does not help predatory criminals or animals.
It makes my heart happy to know from your link
that I am not alone in my donations to the NRA.
However, the last time that NRA called me,
I refused to contribute blaming NRA's mis-conduct
in fouling up an effort to repeal all gun control laws in Hew Hampshire.
I told them to be more aggressive and get the job DONE
if u want donations from ME!

I was pleased at an NRA Annual Meeting a few years ago,
when ordinary members were offered the opportunity
to question or comment with a microphone,
a member stood up and said to members in the audience on the floor:
if u really believe in freedom, then put your money where your mouth is
and donate here and now. I 'm giving $1OO.OO right now.
I and quite a few others each matched his contribution
and NRA collected several 1OOO dollars at that time,
to defeat gun laws and to restore total freedom. That made me happy.

NRA is an example of democracy in action!

( I still wish that it were more legislatively aggressive
and I 've told them so. )

David

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I 've noticed that the State of Arkansas
has joined the relatively small number of states
who have repealed and nullified all of their gun control laws. (Vermont, to its credit, never had any.)
Those freedom-loving states now number only 1O% of the nation, so far. 5 out of 50.
Its sad that the other 90% have not yet joined in total freedom.

I expect the USSC to help out,
on a more universal basis, qua equal protection of the laws
(meaning equal protection of the 2nd Amendment)
united with the right to travel freely with no State interference.

Carrying guns over state lines shud be the same as
carrying Bibles or carrying the Wall St. Journal.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

David this poll indicates democracy at work also. Not just money at work... All the money in the world cannot change democracy. These polls put you in the 10% minority of Americans who don't support gun control. While 90% support it. Do your libertarian senses really approve of NRA money buying votes?

New Polls: Americans Overwhelmingly Support Background Checks

New polls released by Mayors Against Illegal Guns conducted by Douglas E. Schoen LLC showed likely voters in a wide range of states and congressional districts overwhelmingly support background checks for all gun sales. The average support for background checks for all gun sales among 41 congressional district polls was 89 percent; the average among 21 statewide polls was 86 percent. See polling results for state and congressional district polling below.

http://www.demandaction.org/polls?__hstc=150375977.310af2b468c78641592acecdd41a0df9.1362627640815.1362761627532.1362764354149.7&__hssc=150375977.2.1362764354149

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@RexRed,

RexRed wrote:

David this poll indicates democracy at work also. Not just money at work... All the money in the world
cannot change democracy. These polls put you in the 10% minority of Americans who don't support gun control. While 90% support it.

BULLoney !
Results can be and have been contrived
by how the question is asked (e.g. with false premises, etc.)
to achieve erroneous results.

Ask the question as to whether everyone
has an equal right to defend his or her life
from the predatory violence of animals or of criminals
and see how it turns out, Rex.

RexRed wrote:

Do your libertarian senses really approve of NRA money buying votes?

1. That did not happen.
2. Yes, of course I believe that I am perfectly within my moral n logical rights
to offer contracts to voters, if I trust them to honor
their commitments to vote as thay have agreed to,
in exchange for whatever payment we have agreed.
Anyone morally has the right
to sell his rights for consideration that is satisfactory to him.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

How is this for democracy? Once again David, you are part of the minority... I am sure the boogie man came in and changed all the representatives and senators votes on them... Maybe they were under the influence of some mind altering substance? Maybe they are just so ill informed they need you David to come and lecture them about how important it is to let criminals get guns without restrictions? Why? Because guns give you that warm floatie feeling and guns should do the same for them and once they understand this then they will let criminals have them too... (cynical) Or maybe they just happen to care a little more about the first amendment than you do...

NRA rebuked: Background checks pass in Maine!
http://agreetodisagree.bangordailynews.com/2013/06/19/maine-politics/nra-rebuked-background-checks-passes-in-maine/

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@RexRed,

RexRed wrote:

How is this for democracy? Once again David, you are part of the minority...

I do not claim
that people always agree with me, Rex.

RexRed wrote:

I am sure the boogie man came in
and changed all the representatives and senators votes on them...

OK, if u r sure,
I 'll take your word for it.

RexRed wrote:

Maybe they were under the influence of some mind altering substance?

Maybe.

RexRed wrote:

Maybe they are just so ill informed they need you David
to come and lecture them about how important it is to let criminals get guns without restrictions?

Maybe.

RexRed wrote:

Why?

Because government has NO authority
to interfere with the right of any person to defensively bear arms

RexRed wrote:

Because guns give you that warm floatie feeling and guns should do
the same for them and once they understand this then they will
let criminals have them too...

Understand one thing:
criminals WILL have guns, if such be their desire,
regardless of the state of the law or the law of the state,
the same as thay have marijuana, the same as thay had alcohol in the 1920s.
Guns can be hand-made, as thay were for CENTURIES
before the advent of electric tools; its much faster n easier to make them now,
or to buy them from blackmarket gunsmiths.

RexRed wrote:

(cynical) Or maybe they just happen to care
a little more about the first amendment than you do...

How does the First Amendment have any connection to the issue ?

RexRed wrote:

NRA rebuked: Background checks pass in Maine!
http://agreetodisagree.bangordailynews.com/2013/06/19/maine-politics/nra-rebuked-background-checks-passes-in-maine/

I take it that RexRed is against "equal protection of the laws";
RexRed prefers discrimination resulting from background checks.

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Another casualty of loose gun laws... Perhaps David the mom should have kept two guns at home instead of just one... (cynical)

5-year-old girl left home fatally shoots self in head, cops say
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/23/19104579-5-year-old-girl-left-home-fatally-shoots-self-in-head-cops-say?lite&lite=obnetwork

The chance of the mother needing the gun for protection was probably nil... but apparently the chance her 5 year old would do this was quite probable...

There is too much neglect between gun owners and the innocent victims of their unsecured guns...

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@OmSigDAVID,

When felons have already broken the first amendment, what right should they have to the second amendment?

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Blake Campbell, Austin Wiseman Shot, Killed In Ohio Home

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/27/blake-campbell-austin-wiseman-half-brothers-shot-ohio_n_3511916.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl23%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D337386

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@RexRed,

RexRed wrote:

Another casualty of loose gun laws...

Enacting a gun law (loose or tight) is a crime:
raping the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land.

Government has NO authority to enact any gun laws,
the same as it has no jurisdiction to make u go to Church if u don't wanna.

RexRed wrote:

Perhaps David the mom should have kept two guns at home instead of just one... (cynical)

Sure; Y not??
I don't know the reason that u bring that up.

RexRed wrote:

5-year-old girl left home fatally shoots self in head,

Had she received proper n adequate gun handling safety training, Rex ???

RexRed wrote:

The chance of the mother needing the gun for protection was probably nil...
but apparently the chance her 5 year old would do this was quite probable...

What is the source of your data on these probabalities, Rex ??

RexRed wrote:

There is too much neglect between gun owners and the innocent victims of their unsecured guns...

Yes; thay shud all be trained in the public schools,
as early as possible.

David

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@RexRed,

RexRed wrote:

When felons have already broken the first amendment,
what right should they have to the second amendment?

Government was deprived of ANY authority regarding
possession of guns, as a condition of the existence of government.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Enacting a gun law (loose or tight) is a crime:
raping the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land.

Really, you need to put your pecker back in your pants Dave and keep it off the Constitution.

It is NOT a crime to pass a gun law. The courts have ruled repeatedly that the government can do that. Even the latest rulings state gun laws are valid just not all gun laws.

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@parados,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Enacting a gun law (loose or tight) is a crime:
raping the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land.

parados wrote:

Really, you need to put your pecker back in your pants Dave and keep it off the Constitution.

It is NOT a crime to pass a gun law. The courts have ruled repeatedly that the government can do that.
Even the latest rulings state gun laws are valid just not all gun laws.

U wish, Parados!
I refer to Title 18, US Code
Chapter 13, Sections 241 and 242.

( I admit that before HELLER in June of 2008,
there had been anti-Bill of Rights judicial rulings. )

David

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In 1934, gun control amounted to almost nothing, nationwide.
NRA did not need to fight anti-gun politicians back then
because defensive gun freedom prevailed.

I 'd LOVE to see each and every holder of public office,
legislative, executive and judicial officers
who ever supported gun control in any way
be incarcerated at hard labor,
with loss of pensions for his rape of the Bill of Rights.
That wud be fair; that wud be justice.

David

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@RexRed,

I challenge the authenticity
of your alleged quote.

David

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I also believe most all fireworks displays should be banned. Except for a few small events worldwide. It is a waste of energy and with millions of tons of fireworks needlessly exploded every year, what is the propose? Fireworks toxify the air and contribute heavily to global warming and rising CO2 levels. They greatly increases the risk of devastating forest fires. When improperly used they can cause injury and death.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Hello, Rex!

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I challenge the authenticity
of your alleged quote.

David

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