Guns And The Laws That Govern Them

You might not like the anecdotal evidence but isn't that all we were given about the state of our health care system?

The city of Chicago had 500 murders all to themselves last year.

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The city of Chicago had 500 murders all to themselves last year.

It seems you don't understand the first thing about stats.
Chicago also has a population of 2.7 million.

New Orleans has only 360,000 people but had 193 murders last year.
When Chicago has over 1,400 murders then you can start to complain how they aren't on the list.

10 Worst:
Honolulu HI
Oklahoma City
Stockton-Lodi CA
Baton Rouge LA
San Antonio TX
Little Rock-North Little Rock AR
Phoenix-Mesa AZ
Miami FL
Memphis TN-AR-MS
Tucson AZ

10 Best:
Nassau-Suffolk NY
Middlesex-Somerset-Hunterdon NJ
Ventura CA
Monmouth-Ocean NJ
Bergen-Passaic NJ
Scranton-Wilkes-Barre-Hazleton PA
Harrisburg-Lebanon-Carlisle PA
San Jose CA
Pittsburgh PA
Orange County CA

Now here is the interesting part. Who controls those cities in those states, and who is creating the crime? Most of the Worst cities are Dem controlled places anyways. Not only that but some of them are border states as well. Simply stating that the worst crime is in the south isn't tell the whole truth or being honest about who commits the crime in those areas.

Most of the best cities also happen to be upper class areas with little or now poverty and I'm guessing little to few minorities. Don't try to play it as a racist idea, Chicago as the prime example has the worst crime in the minority parts of town (South side). While the rest of Chicago which isn't poor and made up primarily of minorities.

Two concealed carry permit holders shoot and kill each other in Michigan
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/19/1239955/-Two-concealed-carry-permit-holders-shoot-and-kill-each-other-in-Michigan?detail=facebook

Look!!! I got a gun!!! So do I!!!! BANG!!! BANG!!!

A family was returning home from a funeral when a masked
and armed robber approached them in the driveway of one of their
houses in Harris County, Texas and demanded cash. The brother-in-law
of the homeowner, a retired federal agent, responded to the threat
by drawing a gun and firing at the robber, striking him twice
and causing him to flee. The robber was captured a short time later
after seeking treatment at a nearby hospital.

The retired agent’s actions seem to have inspired at least one of his
brother-in-law’s neighbors who told a local media outlet, “I might
start taking gun classes for protection.” Investigators believe the
thief may have been involved in other robberies earlier in the evening.
(KHOU, Houston, Texas 09/16/13)

OmSigDAVID wrote:

A family was returning home from a funeral when a masked
and armed robber approached them in the driveway of one of their
houses in Harris County, Texas and demanded cash. The brother-in-law
of the homeowner, a retired federal agent, responded to the threat
by drawing a gun and firing at the robber, striking him twice
and causing him to flee. The robber was captured a short time later
after seeking treatment at a nearby hospital.

The retired agent’s actions seem to have inspired at least one of his
brother-in-law’s neighbors who told a local media outlet, “I might
start taking gun classes for protection.” Investigators believe the
thief may have been involved in other robberies earlier in the evening.
(KHOU, Houston, Texas 09/16/13)

Unfortunately that neighbor is much more likely to shoot someone in his own family...than any intruder.

So what is your point, David?

Frank Apisa wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

A family was returning home from a funeral when a masked
and armed robber approached them in the driveway of one of their
houses in Harris County, Texas and demanded cash. The brother-in-law
of the homeowner, a retired federal agent, responded to the threat
by drawing a gun and firing at the robber, striking him twice
and causing him to flee. The robber was captured a short time later
after seeking treatment at a nearby hospital.

The retired agent’s actions seem to have inspired at least one of his
brother-in-law’s neighbors who told a local media outlet, “I might
start taking gun classes for protection.” Investigators believe the
thief may have been involved in other robberies earlier in the evening.
(KHOU, Houston, Texas 09/16/13)

Unfortunately that neighbor is much more likely to shoot someone in his own family...than any intruder.

I doubt that,
but even if that were true,
the right of self-defense remains immutable.

Frank Apisa wrote:

So what is your point, David?

It's better to HAVE a gun and not need it
than it is to NEED a gun and not have it.

Every citizen of our 3OO,OOO,OOO + shud be well armed
in his or her own defense 24/7/365.

The only exceptions to that are criminals while incarcerated
and mentally sick people while thay are confined to mental hospitals.

Note that I advocate that when violent criminals
are released from prison, thay not be released inside America.

David

unfortunately, the neighbor is MUCH MORE LIKELY to shoot someone in his family...than any intruder.

Not sure why you doubt it...but...

Frank Apisa wrote:

unfortunately, the neighbor is MUCH MORE LIKELY to shoot someone in his family...than any intruder.

Not sure why you doubt it...but...

I dont see a problem
with running safety in firearms handling courses in the public schools,
from the very earliest years.

David

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

unfortunately, the neighbor is MUCH MORE LIKELY to shoot someone in his family...than any intruder.

Not sure why you doubt it...but...

I dont see a problem
with running safety in firearms handling courses in the public schools,
from the very earliest years.

David

I understand you don't have a problem with it, David.

But the facts speak for themselves...and the facts indicate that a gun owner is MUCH more likely to shoot a family member than an intruder…so the fact that you don’t see a problem really doesn’t come into play.