Taking out the terrorists

Damn ! ! !

Six hundred bucks ? ! ? ! ?


If that happens to ya again, give me a call . . . you'll save money, and we'll both be happy . . .

Constant's quote, "That was but one example, not the be all-end all of my argument." That "one example" does'nt fly; it's full of holes. The statement doesn't support "anything."

Well, it's not exactly the same, McG. The Palestinians claim that some of that land is theirs.

I submit that there are few peoples in the world who, being subjected to an ongoing campaign of this type, would not respond in the strongest military terms.

Brandon9000 wrote:

I submit that there are few peoples in the world who, being subjected to an ongoing campaign of this type, would not respond in the strongest military terms.

Indeed, which goes to show that simplistic idiots are common while their opposites are rare.

Yesterday a Palestinian terrorist suicide bomber approached soldiers at an Israeli checkpoint in the West Bank. The soldiers were on high alert, because they had captured an 11-year-old boy with a bomb hidden in his bag just last week. They noticed the teenager had something under his sweater and pointed their rifles at 14-year-old Hussam Abdo.

The soldiers ducked behind a concrete barrier, and with guns pointed at Abdo, ordered him to remove his sweater, revealing the standard-issue gray vest used by Palestinian suicide bombers. Now, at this point, what do you think happened? From everything the media reports about the evil Israelis and their incursions into the "occupied territories," it leaves the impression that the Israeli Army would have just shot the boy, right on site. Of course, that is not what happened.

After the boy told soldiers he did not want to blow up, the Israelis then sent a robot with a pair of scissors toward the 14-year-old terrorist, allowing him to cut the bomb-laden vest off, and drop it to the ground. He was then ordered to strip to his underwear, and was detained by soldiers who detonated the bomb in a controlled explosion.

Wearing a jacked provided by the Israelis, the kid was escorted back to the other side of the checkpoint. A military spokesman said "He's a frightened little boy. Our interest right now is to find out who sent him." Can you imagine what would happen in this country if Al-Qaeda was sending teenage suicide bombers to our cities? Wouldn't we retaliate? Of course we would.

So why can't Israel?

Craven de Kere wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

I submit that there are few peoples in the world who, being subjected to an ongoing campaign of this type, would not respond in the strongest military terms.

Indeed, which goes to show that simplistic idiots are common while their opposites are rare.

I assert that when subjected to an ongoing campaign of bombing public, civilian areas, for a nation to respond with force is normal and understandable, and does not make one a simplistic idiot.

McGentrix wrote:

Yesterday a Palestinian terrorist suicide bomber approached soldiers at an Israeli checkpoint in the West Bank. The soldiers were on high alert, because they had captured an 11-year-old boy with a bomb hidden in his bag just last week. They noticed the teenager had something under his sweater and pointed their rifles at 14-year-old Hussam Abdo.

The soldiers ducked behind a concrete barrier, and with guns pointed at Abdo, ordered him to remove his sweater, revealing the standard-issue gray vest used by Palestinian suicide bombers. Now, at this point, what do you think happened? From everything the media reports about the evil Israelis and their incursions into the "occupied territories," it leaves the impression that the Israeli Army would have just shot the boy, right on site. Of course, that is not what happened.

After the boy told soldiers he did not want to blow up, the Israelis then sent a robot with a pair of scissors toward the 14-year-old terrorist, allowing him to cut the bomb-laden vest off, and drop it to the ground. He was then ordered to strip to his underwear, and was detained by soldiers who detonated the bomb in a controlled explosion.

Wearing a jacked provided by the Israelis, the kid was escorted back to the other side of the checkpoint. A military spokesman said "He's a frightened little boy. Our interest right now is to find out who sent him." Can you imagine what would happen in this country if Al-Qaeda was sending teenage suicide bombers to our cities? Wouldn't we retaliate? Of course we would.

So why can't Israel?

The problem is the meaning of the word "retaliate".

The United States should not (and I believe would not) punish the Arab community for this. A core of democracy is that we find and punish the people who commited the crime. Punishing a community is the core of racism.

This is why Israel is wrong and the United States is right.

Israel's response is to punish the Palestinians as a whole. They use these crimes to justify their crimes - including missle attacks in civilian areas, assassinations of political leaders and the demolition of houses.

After 9/11 the United States did a pretty good job of protecting the rights of Arab citizens. Bush gave a very good speech entitled "Islam is Peace" a couple of weeks after the attacks. My public school gave a series of seminars on the Muslem religion to promote tolerance.

Furthermore with a couple of exceptions the legal and civil rights of Arabs were protected in spite of the horrific attack we suffered from Arab individuals.

The United States is not Israel. We would not "retaliate" the way Israel does. We would hold to our laws and our sense of what is right. We would not reduce ourselves to the same level of brutal cruelty for vengence.

The US is not Israel, and I thank God for that.