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Should relinquish be relinquished here?

 
 
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2013 01:59 am

Context:

In 1871 he visited Indianapolis, Indiana, where a business
partnership was offered to him on favorable terms; if he had
accepted, his responsibilities would have left little time for
study and investigation. On the other hand, if Walcott were to
devote his life to science, it was necessary that he relinquish
the opportunity for financial success and secure more time for
his work. Upon returning from Indiana, he decided in favor
of science and therefore left the business world forever.
Walcott's scientific bent had begun to develop at the age of
thirteen when he started systematic collecting of birds' eggs
and minerals. One day he was out looking for leaves with some
 
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Skar
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Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2013 02:27 am
@oristarA,
No. Relinquished would be past tense, indicating that he already devoted his life to science at that time. But since the sentence is in a present subjunctive mood, the verb is always in the singular and present tense form.
McTag
 
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Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2013 11:33 am
@Skar,

Refreshing, to come across someone who recognises the subjunctive.
oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2013 11:19 pm
@McTag,
McTag wrote:


Refreshing, to come across someone who recognises the subjunctive.


Yeah, that's cool. Wink
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Reply Sat 23 Mar, 2013 09:50 pm
@McTag,
Is that better or worse than someone who recognizes thee and thou? Millions of native speakers recognize it by daily using it, or not, depending on their preference.

But what's so special about a dying part of the English language? Every so called "subjunctive" form has an alternate form to use.
McTag
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2013 04:48 am
@JTT,

Those who don't recognise it, who haven't been taught that it exists, come up with questions.

Children accept it: in the pantomime Jack and the Beastalk, the Giant says

"Fee, fie, fo, fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman
Be he alive or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread!"
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2013 01:12 pm
@McTag,
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Children accept it: in the pantomime Jack and the Beastalk, the Giant says


You've raised an interesting point, McTag. Children aren't confused by it, even little children who are easily confused by other very simple things. They aren't confused because it is one of the natural rules of the English language.

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Those who don't recognise it, who haven't been taught that it exists, come up with questions.


Notice that it isn't English native speaking children who come up with such questions.

But the sad part is that when these grammar/language issues are raised, those same English native speaking children are then fed all manner of nonsense about the English language.

Luckily, the nonsense doesn't take for the brighter ones. In fact, the nonsense doesn't take even for the gullible ones when they are operating naturally in language.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2013 10:19 pm
@McTag,
McTag wrote:


Those who don't recognise it, who haven't been taught that it exists, come up with questions.

Children accept it: in the pantomime Jack and the Beastalk, the Giant says

"Fee, fie, fo, fum,
I smell the blood of an Englishman
Be he alive or be he dead
I'll grind his bones to make my bread!"


Failed to understand "Fee, fie, fo, fum." Does it mean "bah, bah, bah"?
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 24 Mar, 2013 11:07 pm
@oristarA,
I never once thought to ask that question, Ori. I think it's just to help make the rhyme. It has no meaning AFAIK.
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Reply Mon 25 Mar, 2013 06:39 am
@oristarA,

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I think it's just to help make the rhyme. It has no meaning AFAIK.


Yes, it has no real meaning. Just alliteration, for dramatic effect. It is said by the giant, before he has been seen. Just a disembodied voice.
The words are intoned loudly and slowly, as if they are in time with the approaching giant's heavy, slow tread.
This adds to the scariness of the panto. Children love being scared, if they also feel safe.
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