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Whose papers? Darwin's and Wallace's? Together they read before the Linnean Society?

 
 
Reply Wed 20 Mar, 2013 11:41 pm
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When Darwin received Alfred Russel Wallace's paper which described natural selection, Hooker and Charles Lyell arranged for a joint reading of papers by Darwin and Wallace to the Linnean Society. Since Darwin had nothing prepared, the reading included excerpts from his 1844 Essay and from a letter he had sent to Asa Gray in 1857, outlining his theory. The correspondence with Gray was thus a key piece of evidence in establishing Darwin's intellectual priority with respect to the theory of evolution through natural selection. Neither Darwin nor Wallace attended the meeting. The papers were published by the society as On the Tendency of Species to form Varieties; and on the Perpetuation of Varieties and Species by Natural Means of Selection.[4]
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Ceili
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 12:13 am
@oristarA,
Yes.
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PUNKEY
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 08:53 am
I would say it means the two men who will host the event will each read selections from the papers by Darwin and Wallace.

When two people read together it is called a "joint reading." It is trendy in the US to joint read with your pre-school child.




oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 09:31 am
@PUNKEY,
PUNKEY wrote:

I would say it means the two men who will host the event will each read selections from the papers by Darwin and Wallace.

When two people read together it is called a "joint reading." It is trendy in the US to joint read with your pre-school child.



The two men who will host the event are Hooker and Charles Lyell?

McTag
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 10:29 am
@oristarA,

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The two men who will host the event are Hooker and Charles Lyell?


Difficult to say from what is posted here. The official host would be the president (for the time being) of the Society. Certainly Hooker and Lyell seem to have organised the event.
oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 10:40 am
@McTag,
McTag wrote:


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The two men who will host the event are Hooker and Charles Lyell?


Difficult to say from what is posted here. The official host would be the president (for the time being) of the Society. Certainly Hooker and Lyell seem to have organised the event.


Yeah, "a joint reading of papers by Darwin and Wallace" looks vague: a joint reading by Darwin and Wallace? Or papers by Darwin and Wallace? Hard to know.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 11:15 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:
a joint reading by Darwin and Wallace?


that is not one of options - Darwin and Wallace were not in attendance according to your original post
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 11:21 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:
Or papers by Darwin and Wallace?


this is correct

link to The American Geologist, Volume 28, google books

I'm trying to google who did the reading.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 11:24 am
wikipedia link

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Lyell and Hooker had decided on a joint publication at the Linnean Society of London of Wallace's paper together with an extract from Darwin's essay and his letter to Asa Gray,

<snip>

On the afternoon of 30 June Mrs. Hooker copied out extracts from the handwritten documents they had just received from Darwin, then that evening Lyell and Hooker handed them in to the secretary with a covering letter.[6]

The papers were read to the Linnean Society of London on 1 July 1858, by the Secretary John Joseph Bennett.

Neither author was present.

<snip>

The meeting was chaired by the President of the society, Thomas Bell, who had written up the description of Darwin's reptile specimens from the Beagle expedition.



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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Thu 21 Mar, 2013 11:24 am
to recap, the papers read were written by Darwin and Wallace.
Darwin and Wallace were not at the meeting, so they didn't read them.
Hooker and Lyell organized the meeting at which the papers were read.
They organized it, they didn't necessarily read the papers themselves. They might have, but the actual readers are not mentioned in the cite.

Never mind. ehBeth got there first.
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