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Guns aren't stupid, People with Guns Are.

 
 
parados
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2014 09:29 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Because no one with firearms training would ever accidentally shoot themselves or anyone else. Drunk

Quote:
SAN ANTONIO -- A pilot for the San Antonio Police Department accidentally shot himself in the hand Wednesday morning, according to the department.

Police said the Blue Eagle chopper pilot accidentally discharged the weapon as he was transferring his gun from his uniform holster to another holster.

The officer was transported to an area hospital with non-life threatening injuries after calling in his own injury, according to SAPD. Police said the incident will still be reviewed as an officer-involved shooting.

The man is a 19-year veteran with the department.

http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/San-Antonio-police-pilot-accidentally-shoots-self-254544691.html

Quote:
SAN ANTONIO — A San Antonio Independent School District police officer accidentally shot himself in the finger Friday morning.

SAPD officers were dispatched to the 3200 block of Woodlawn Avenue around 8 a.m. for the shooting, which resulted in a graze wound.

It is the second time this month that an area law enforcement officer has accidently shot himself.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/SAISD-officer-hurt-in-accidental-discharge-5414106.php
parados
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2014 09:31 am
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WELLSVILLE — A 2-year-old boy has died from an accidental shooting at his home and police say the boy's 3-year-old sister pulled the trigger.

"This is a stark reminder of the importance of keeping guns locked up and denied access to young people," Cache County Sheriff Lt. Mike Peterson said. "This is a very tragic incident, but one that is preventable."

The boy, whose name was not released, was shot in the stomach with a .22-caliber rifle that was used earlier in the day and then left in the living room of the home, near 3600 West and 2200 South, in the College Ward area of unincorporated Cache County. The incident occurred at about 6:40 p.m. on Friday.

"The gun was in an unloaded state but did have live rounds in the magazine," Peterson said. "We believe the 3-year-old had to manipulate the action enough to chamber a live round."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865601398/2-year-old-boy-dies-from-accidental-shooting-in-his-home.html?pg=all
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 1 May, 2014 09:34 am
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A 3-year-old died from an apparent accidental shooting Sunday afternoon, Charlotte-Mecklenburg police said.

The shooting was reported about 1:20 p.m. in the 700 block of Glasgow Road, near Moores Chapel Road in northwest Charlotte. The 3-year-old boy, whom police did not identify, was taken to Carolinas Medical Center and pronounced dead, police said.

Police say they believe the child was inside a home when he was shot. Preliminary information indicates that there was no foul play involved, and family members who were inside the home at the time of the shooting were cooperating with the investigation and were being interviewed by detectives, police said in a release.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/04/13/4839312/3-year-old-killed-in-apparent.html#storylink=cpy
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 9 May, 2014 06:59 pm
Quote:
Buhl Man with 0.5 BAC Pointed Rifle at Sister,
Attempted Own Surgery, Police Say


A 48-year-old Buhl man was arrested early Sunday after allegedly pointing a rifle at his sister
while his blood-alcohol level was at 0.5 — more than six times the legal limit to drive and a
level that potentially can cause lethal alcohol poisoning.

John Martin Novak also apparently had tried to perform surgery on himself, police reported.

About 12:30 a.m., police and Twin Falls County deputies went to a home on 4200 North east
of Buhl, where a woman told them she had taken a rifle from her brother, who was covered in
blood.

Police gave this report:

The woman said Novak wanted to show her his new rifle, but when she saw a fixed-blade
knife attached to its end, she told him to be careful

"No, I got this to hurt you guys for not leaving me alone," Novak said, turning the gun toward
her.

When police arrived, they had her step behind some trees while they searched the house for
Novak. The door was blocked by a dresser and a piece of wood. The sliding-glass door was
shattered, and two empty vodka bottles were in the broken glass.

The Buhl officer spotted blood on the ground, and then officers found more blood at the
back door.

They asked Novak to come out, but he said he wasn't going anywhere. Seeing him in bed,
officers approached. A deputy asked him to get out of bed, then realized the man was so
intoxicated that he could hardly move.

As they handcuffed Novak, he told them he was going to urinate on himself. Instead, he
defecated. Officers helped him out of the house, and paramedics took over.

Officers had seen wounds on the side of his face and an apparent broken nose. Novak said
someone had beat him up.

At the hospital, medical staff began working to get Novak's alcohol level down. As he
sobered up, Novak said he’d tried to perform his own sinus surgery, needed for a snoring
problem. He said he purposely consumed a lot of alcohol to try to dull the pain.

"He described that he stuck two straws up his nose and was attempting to break his own
nose using a door that he would open rapidly and impact his face," the police report says.

Novak told one deputy he'd been drinking for a week straight before he attempted the
surgery.

After being medically cleared, Novak was booked into jail. His bail was set at $30,000.
A preliminary hearing was set for May 16.
(source)
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 13 May, 2014 11:38 am
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According to police reports of the shooting, Williamson and the juvenile had shown up at the party and gone into a back bedroom where several other youths were gathered playing a video game. At some point the boy reportedly pulled out a silver handgun that he boasted as having stolen.

According to the boy's arrest report, "He pulled the magazine out of the handgun and set it down. He continued to hold onto the gun. He began to tell his friends he 'can't wait to sell it,' when he suddenly fired the gun."

Other witnesses who did not see the shot reported hearing a loud pop and then screaming.

The bullet reportedly struck a juvenile who was sitting in front of the boy with the gun. Accounts say the injured boy immediately stood up and grasped his buttock with his right hand.

http://www.timescall.com/longmont-local-news/ci_25748757/police-pair-arrested-break-ins-february-involved-accidental
parados
 
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Reply Tue 13 May, 2014 11:39 am
Quote:


The Harrison County Sheriff’s Office is investigating a Saturday accidental shooting in Harleton that claimed the life of a Longview man.

Jay Webb, administrative deputy for the Harrison County Sheriff’s office, released a statement Sunday, identifying the deceased as Ivan Dolley, 26.

According to Webb, Harrison County dispatch received an emergency call about 11:45 p.m. Saturday from 1097 Ragon Road.

The caller said a shot had been fired and one person had been injured, according to the statement.

Deputies and emergency personnel who responded found Dolley had a gunshot wound to his upper abdomen.

The injured man was taken to Good Shepherd Medical Center in Longview and was pronounced dead at 12:40 a.m. by Gregg County Pct. 2 Justice of the Peace Arthur Fort.


The incident appears to have occurred when a loaded weapon was handed barrel first to the victim.

http://www.news-journal.com/news/police/harrison-county-deputies-investigating-accidental-shooting/article_992facbc-d964-11e3-a1c8-0019bb2963f4.html
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 13 May, 2014 11:40 am
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Police say the accidental shooting occurred inside the municipal court building on 1 Municipal Drive in Bordentown Township, New Jersey around 3:50 p.m. on Tuesday.


Bordentown Township Police Chief Frank Nucera, who also acts as the township administrator, was inside the Tax Assessors office when his .45 caliber gun accidentally went off and struck him once in the leg, according to investigators.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Gunman-Opens-Fire-at-Municipal-Court-Building-258177351.html
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 13 May, 2014 11:52 am
@parados,
parados wrote:

Quote:
According to police reports of the shooting, Williamson and the juvenile had shown up at the party and gone into a back bedroom where several other youths were gathered playing a video game. At some point the boy reportedly pulled out a silver handgun that he boasted as having stolen.

According to the boy's arrest report, "He pulled the magazine out of the handgun and set it down. He continued to hold onto the gun. He began to tell his friends he 'can't wait to sell it,' when he suddenly fired the gun."

Other witnesses who did not see the shot reported hearing a loud pop and then screaming.

The bullet reportedly struck a juvenile who was sitting in front of the boy with the gun. Accounts say the injured boy immediately stood up and grasped his buttock with his right hand.
If thay had attended a decent school,
thay 'd have been taught about cartridges left in the chambers of automatic pistols.
Thay 'd have been taught that for safety, after u drop the magazine,
u need to RACK the pistol to remove the last cartridge from the chamber.
U 'd think that everyone already knows that, but alas, they dont.

That is the first thing that any kid shud be taught in school.

The second thing is fonetic spelling.

The third thing is target practice.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 13 May, 2014 11:56 am
@parados,
parados wrote:

Quote:
Police say the accidental shooting occurred inside the municipal court building on 1 Municipal Drive in Bordentown Township, New Jersey around 3:50 p.m. on Tuesday.


Bordentown Township Police Chief Frank Nucera, who also acts as the township administrator, was inside the Tax Assessors office when his .45 caliber gun accidentally went off and struck him once in the leg, according to investigators.
Yea. Administer THAT.
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Tue 13 May, 2014 01:20 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Hi Dave,
I was just wondering what gun you use on Tuesdays, that's assuming you have a gun for everyday of the week.

So what's Tuesdays gun? and did you get your Sunday gun blessed?, hope you did.

Also do you colour coordinate your guns, like would you insist on a black gun for a funeral and a white gun for a wedding.
More importantly do you have a green gun for St Patricks day?.

Also Dave do you wear a gun strap-on?.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 13 May, 2014 02:41 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I find it rather funny that you want to give gun safety courses to criminals that steal guns.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 13 May, 2014 05:09 pm
@eurocelticyankee,
eurocelticyankee wrote:

Hi Dave,
Hi, Yankee.


eurocelticyankee wrote:
I was just wondering what gun you use on Tuesdays,
that's assuming you have a gun for everyday of the week.
Well, I have more than 7 guns,
but I only have one dedicated to personal security:
http://www.proguns.com/images/used-guns/usedguns247- 904/278taurus445.jpg
Its a .44 caliber Taurus Model 445 revolver in stainless steel mirror; reflective
and loaded with .44 Special hollowpointed slugs with W - I - D - E cavities for STOPPING POWER.
Good for nite use. It has an in terrorem factor that has already successfully been put to good use
some years ago when someone took a potshot at me from a car (presumably, attempted robbery)
while I was driving home from my girlfriend's house around 12 midnite One Summer Night.
A bullethole opened up in my driver's door window, about 3 inches in front of my face.
A car was driving exactly abreast of me (we were alone on the road)
on my left, until my .44 caliber friend (hereinabove set forth) was brought out,
whereupon I heard a scream from that car (which might have included the word "gun")
and thay abruptly decided that thay had somewhere better to go,
before I was able to line up a shot. (I have a bumper sticker on my car
that says: "CRIMINALS PREFER UNARMED VICTIMS".)

More than obviously,
thay were about to get a 1 gun salute!
Many years before, I had been counseled
to carry a reflective silver-colored revolver;
(revolvers r much more reliable than automatics).
Its visibility in low-light conditions is optimal.
I 'm not eager to kill anyone, if un-necessary;
its visibility obviated a gun fight of very lethal intent
(my eagerness to the contrary notwithstanding).

I was glad that I had full-glass insurance coverage on my car.



eurocelticyankee wrote:
So what's Tuesdays gun? and did you get your Sunday gun blessed?, hope you did.
That did not occur to me, Yankee.
Will u give it your blessing ?


eurocelticyankee wrote:
Also do you colour coordinate your guns, like would you
insist on a black gun for a funeral and a white gun for a wedding.
I have some black guns; no white ones.
I hope u do not deem that to be racial prejudice!


eurocelticyankee wrote:
More importantly do you have a green gun for St Patricks day?.
I 've seen some pink guns, for the ladies
and for homosexuals ("The Pink Pistols").
I 've seen a gold colored gun,
but no green ones.


eurocelticyankee wrote:
Also Dave do you wear a gun strap-on?.
Not any more, Yankee. After I retired from the legal profession,
I had a residential fire, in consequence whereof, I moved from NY
to South Florida and I now live in a nudist colony,
where the right to bare arms is held in hi repute.
If I want, I can carry it in my canvas bag, along with my keys n wallet, etc.,
etc., but the enfeeblement of age (and of weight) has reduced me to being
barely able to walk at all for more than 2 minutes (but my car works great).
The gun's weight is a burden while walking (along with other materials).
I selected it for its heavy weight, among other criteria,
in that its weight absorbs some of its .44 caliber recoil.
I feel absolutely 1OO% safe. I 've never seen anyone even
as much as get angry here. There r no complaints of crime.
I 've always felt safe, wherever I have lived, except briefly in Arizona,
home alone at age 8, when I felt a little ill-at-ease,
qua defending the place, if necessary; (that never became necessary),
before I acquired my first .38 revolver, whose acquisition invested me
with a sense of tranquility n serenity. I took it everywhere.
Now, my muscular strength to support the weight of the gun
is in a state of decline; its a burden. I dont carry it in the nudist colony,
especially not in the swimming pool or in the hot tub. Call me a hypocrit.
The other colonists r very peaceful. Regardless of the state of my own health,
I still want almost all of my fellow American citizens to be defensively armed
to the teeth, against potential crime, with all gun control laws nullified.





David

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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 13 May, 2014 05:10 pm
@parados,
He shot someone in the ass. Give the courses to EVERYONE,
the same as swimming. Do u oppose criminals being safe in the handling of their guns ?
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 05:20 am
Quote:
Coroner: Man wearing bullet-proof vest says, 'Shoot me,' is killed

HONEA PATH, S.C. —A 25-year-old man who put on a bullet proof vest and asked to be shot was
killed Wednesday morning, according to the coroner, and an 18-year-old girl is charged in the death.

The shooting was reported on Broadmouth Church Road at 2:40 a.m., according to Sheila Cole with
the Anderson County Sheriff's Office.

Anderson County Deputy Coroner Don McCown said Blake Randall Wardell was hanging around with
some other people in a garage at that location when he put on a bullet proof vest they had found.

Wardell asked his friend, Taylor Ann Kelly, of Anderson to shoot him. She fired, and the shot from
the small caliber weapon went above the Kevlar of the vest and into Wardell’s heart, killing him,
McCown said.

Several people tried unsuccessfully to perform CPR on Wardell, according to deputies.

Wednesday afternoon, Kelly was charged with involuntary manslaughter. A conviction on the charge
could carry a penalty of up to five years in prison.

Kelly was being held in the Anderson County Detention Center pending a bond hearing.
(source)
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 09:08 am
@Region Philbis,
Region Philbis wrote:
Quote:
Coroner: Man wearing bullet-proof vest says, 'Shoot me,' is killed

HONEA PATH, S.C. —A 25-year-old man who put on a bullet proof vest and asked to be shot was
killed Wednesday morning, according to the coroner, and an 18-year-old girl is charged in the death.

The shooting was reported on Broadmouth Church Road at 2:40 a.m., according to Sheila Cole with
the Anderson County Sheriff's Office.

Anderson County Deputy Coroner Don McCown said Blake Randall Wardell was hanging around with
some other people in a garage at that location when he put on a bullet proof vest they had found.

Wardell asked his friend, Taylor Ann Kelly, of Anderson to shoot him. She fired, and the shot from
the small caliber weapon went above the Kevlar of the vest and into Wardell’s heart, killing him,
McCown said.

Several people tried unsuccessfully to perform CPR on Wardell, according to deputies.

Wednesday afternoon, Kelly was charged with involuntary manslaughter. A conviction on the charge
could carry a penalty of up to five years in prison.

Kelly was being held in the Anderson County Detention Center pending a bond hearing.
(source)
I bet that she failed to consider that the gun will jump when fired.
I bet that the target failed to consider that too.

About 4O years ago, I was in a similar situation during target practice
using fone books (too many of them around) to absorb the rounds and a .38 Colt Cobra revolver.
Out of caution and my observance of the safety rule of not ever pointing a gun at anyone,
unless u r willing to shoot him
, I declined to take the shot. Consequently, my friend, Don, remains intact.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 06:57 pm

Elderly man fells intruder,
The St. Louis Post-Dispatch, St. Louis, Mo.
05/08/14, KTVI, St. Louis, Mo. 05/08/14

Posted on May 15, 2014


An elderly resident of St. Clair County, Ill. was inside his home when
he heard the sound of breaking glass. The homeowner called police,
retrieved a pistol and went to investigate. Upon discovering the intruder,
the homeowner shot the criminal once. The intruder fled, but collapsed
and died in the home’s driveway.
(The St. Louis Post-Dispatch, St. Louis, Mo. 05/08/14, KTVI, St. Louis, Mo. 05/08/14)
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raprap
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2014 09:27 pm
Sometimes the states with dumb gunnuts are pretty stupid too.

Woman shot inside Indiana Wal-Mart store after gun falls from man's pants

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2014/may/27/woman-shot-inside-indiana-wal-mart-store-after-gun/?partner=popular

And there were no charges filed as the idiot dropping the handcannon had a carry permit.

Rap
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2014 09:14 pm
@raprap,
raprap wrote:
Sometimes the states with dumb gunnuts are pretty stupid too.

Woman shot inside Indiana Wal-Mart store after gun falls from man's pants

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2014/may/27/woman-shot-inside-indiana-wal-mart-store-after-gun/?partner=popular

And there were no charges filed as the idiot dropping the handcannon had a carry permit.

Rap
Raprap has un-doubtedly PROVEN
that he is NO idiot by his NEVER having dropped anything.

IF the wounded woman believes that he was negligent,
she can sue him in tort. She might allege res ipsa loquitur.





David
raprap
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2014 11:27 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
So David, being held legally responsible for mishandling a deadly object is a acceptable if that deadly object is a firearm?

Rap
parados
 
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Reply Thu 29 May, 2014 10:09 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:



Raprap has un-doubtedly PROVEN
that he is NO idiot by his NEVER having dropped anything.

IF the wounded woman believes that he was negligent,
she can sue him in tort. She might allege res ipsa loquitur.





David


So, now you agree that people that carry guns are more likely to injure others with a gun then people without guns because people with guns drop them on occasion.
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