Guns aren't stupid, People with Guns Are.

@Ceili,

I saved myself from robbers (murderers??) with my gun.
It served me well.

Does that count as a clue ?

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@OmSigDAVID,

"Helpless?" Isn't that we have laws in this country? Isn't that why we have police? How many gun owners actually use it to "protect themselves" from criminals? HOW MANY? Oh, and how many family members kill their own with guns? HOW MANY?

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@cicerone imposter,

Yes, "Helpless". (un-armed)
The laws have been worthless in stopping crime.
(Ask any of the victims.)
The police were of little or no value in stopping crime.
(Confirm that with what is left of Reginald Denny.)
Your faith in police is idle superstition.

2,500,000 gun owners estimated per year stop crime
against themselves by use of their guns. I was among them.

Very few family members kill their own.

U failed to answer my question (hereinabove set forth)
as to whether that counts as a clue.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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People without guns are irresponsibly, negligently helpless,
unable to control predatory events with which thay r beset.

That shows complete ignorance on your part. If you only have one solution to any problem then how did you make it into MENSA?

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HOUSTON (KTRK) -- Authorities say a teen was accidentally shot by his brother, but he has survived the experience.

According to the Fort Bend County Sheriff's Office, a 21-year-old accidentally shot his 18-year-old brother in the face overnight at a home in the 4900 block of Surrey Park Circle in Cinco Ranch. The men were in separate rooms of the home when the older brother was doing something with AR-15 rifle. He reportedly didn't realize it was loaded, and a round struck his brother in the face.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=9093503

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David... It's a good thing this man was armed to protect himself from those predatory events like prowlers.

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Man Accidentally Shoots Himself While Investigating Possible Prowler

By Albany Tribune

At around 4:00 am, Tuesday morning, Marion County Deputies were called to the Emergency Room of the Salem Hospital to investigate a possible shooting.

Deputy Jeremy Landers contacted the victim at the hospital and determined that he was being treated for a non-life threatening self-inflicted gunshot wound to his jaw. He was identified as Frank R. Moore, 71, of Salem.

Moore told Deputy Landers that he and his wife were asleep in their RV at the Phoenix RV Park, 4130 Silverton Road NE, in Salem. He was awakened by the sound of someone moving around outside his RV. Moore said he armed himself with a .22 caliber rifle and went to investigate.

Moore said he tripped in the darkness and accidentally shot himself in the jaw. He was able to knock on a bedroom window of the RV to wake his wife. Moore’s wife found him bloodied and unable to communicate. She drove him to the hospital.

http://www.albanytribune.com/07052013-man-accidentally-shoots-himself-while-investigating-possible-prowler/

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A 22-year-old Jones County woman was shot and killed Monday night, and authorities are checking to see if the shooting was accidental or not.

Brittany Grizzle was found shot to death about 8:40 p.m. Monday at a home in the 3600 block of Joycliff Road, said Jones County sheriff’s Capt. Earl Humphries.

Her boyfriend, 27-year-old Waylon Goodson, told authorities the shooting -- with a .357 revolver -- was accidental.

Read more here: http://www.macon.com/2013/05/07/2469349/boyfriend-says-jones-county-womans.html#storylink=cpy

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

People without guns are irresponsibly, negligently helpless, unable to control predatory events with which thay r beset.

If the environment in which a person lives is such that the risk to their personal safety (and the safety of others around them) of having a gun outweigh the risks of not having one, then your statement above is overly simplistic and of little relevance.

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@rosborne979,

Gun lovers don't appreciate the logistics of guns in the home - of harming their own family members (from intentional and accidental) vs the crimes they 'STOP.'

That's too simplistic for them.

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@parados,

I ratify everything that I said.

U r obsessed by Mensa; it's fun.
Have u been allowed in to attend any of our gatherings ?

Many problems have multiple solutions. I never denied that.

David

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@rosborne979,

U imply that danger exists ONLY in known high-risk environments
n that safety prevails elsewhere ?

I deny that has been historically accurate.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Gun lovers don't appreciate the logistics of guns in the home - of harming their own family members (from intentional and accidental) vs the crimes they 'STOP.'

That's too simplistic for them.

Historically, people have needed to defend themselves from their FAMILY MEMBERS,
e.g. Andrea Yates' children.

Relatives have slain one another both with or without guns.
Mrs. Yates chose to use a bathtub as her weapon
for about 6 assassinations.

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@OmSigDAVID,

You wrote,

Quote:

Historically, people have needed to defend themselves from their FAMILY MEMBERS,

That's about a stupid reason as I've ever read on any of these gun threads.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

You wrote,
Quote:
Historically, people have needed to defend themselves from their FAMILY MEMBERS,
That's about a stupid reason as I've ever read on any of these gun threads.

OK, if u are slain by any of the members of YOUR family,
I will find it in my heart to be MAGNANIMOUS.

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@OmSigDAVID,

GUNS are the cause of most family violence. DUH!

Families that must protect themselves from their own family members with GUNS belong in the looney bin.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

GUNS are the cause of most family violence. DUH!

Families that must protect themselves from their own family
members with GUNS belong in the looney bin.

So, according to U,
if members of my family visit and find me in possession of guns,
thay will become so enraged as to be moven to homicide ??

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@OmSigDAVID,

Not according to me! That's common sense knowledge based on statistics and media coverage.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

U imply that danger exists ONLY in known high-risk environments n that safety prevails elsewhere ?

No, I observe that danger exists more in some environments than in others and that it takes different forms.

Even more to the point, danger(s) which can be addressed with a gun exist much more in some environments that others. And it's quite clear that guns themselves present some level of inherent danger merely by their presence (and the possibility of accidents). So the question is not one of absolutes but rather one of balanced choices for the highest probability of safety.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Not according to me! That's common sense knowledge based on statistics and media coverage.

That is just confusion on your part.
Acute hoplophobes just turn and flee.

David

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@rosborne979,

I agree that it's wise to avoid high crime areas, as a general rule.
Was I a hypocrit by my accepting a comfortable job in a high crime area ?
Nothing bad ever happened to me there,
but I saw some pools of blood on the cement a few times.

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