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Lola at the Coffee House

 
 
Ice Demon
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 01:17 pm
@Setanta,
Is it like P & P & Zombies? If it is, I'll wait till the movie hits the theaters to know what that spin off is all about. If they ever make it into a movie that is.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 02:20 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

So I suppose you don't want to hear me talk about my deltoids. They'll be next - when I go back to the Dark Side studio. Audra's killer on deltoids.


Deltoids don't seem quite as disturbing somehow...
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 02:32 pm
@Lola,
Lola wrote:

Quote:
I do believe that Jim found Huck's father dead in a house which was floating down the river. That would kind of throw a wrench into any story about Huck's father.

This is true, Set. But he did plenty before he met this unfortunate demise. And I suppose, even though I don't know anything about the book fm mentioned, there could be some material based on his father's influence on Huck, I suppose.


Well, it's pretty much the story of the New Testament, you know, father, son and unholy ghost.

With the Mississippi as the Jordan.

The Finn testament?
roger
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 02:35 pm
@dlowan,
Interesting. In the pre civil war, the River Jordan was used in place of the Ohio River in the old spirituals, which was the boundry between free and slave states.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 04:00 pm
Re: the writing sequels or prequels to established writers' work, there is, I am told by Science Fiction loving friends, a whole cottage industry based on writing scripts for both Star Trek and Star Trek-The Next Generation. We are not talking hundreds of scripts but thousands, using all the original characters, just placing them in some new and complex situation. Such things are not limited to Sci-Fi, there are "tribute" novels for Agatha Christie and "new" mysteries for Sherlock Holmes
(there's a tv show based on a modern Holmes and his female Watson, ELEMENTARY. I love the show but it's not Sherlock Holmes.)

I find it odd that someone would spend time and effort writing about the doings of someone else characters until I remember that, in writing, it's not the story, it's the people.

I once worked on trying to find a lover for one of my characters.

Joe(he was never interested in any of them.)Nation

spendius
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 04:20 pm
@Lola,
Quote:
Agreed. Obviously, I have great admiration and affection for a man with this much talent.


After seeing you look me straight in the eyes, leaning forward intently with your delightful elbows on the table and wondering if you meant to cast a chink of light into the darker recesses of your psyche for my information--Lola dear--, a beguilement, I thought I would have a sniff around Mr Clemens to see what all the fuss has been about. I have never read other than short passages in his writings, which I found to be exceedingly banal, possibly because those whose task it was to nurture my literary talent said that it was the signature tune of arrested development. Not that I took much notice of the silly sods mind you. It is probably a personal prejudice, incurable I'm afraid, against works of artistic merit which exclude cultured European ladies and their servants, intricately interwoven with some uncultured ones. And with a Jack of all trades getting himself intimately concerned with their doings and ending up dead. Like in Titanic.

I always felt the need to listen to those who offered a guide to how to stay alive long time. Like Bob said when he was asked what his role was.

As long as they are not medical practitioners I mean. They are like those motor mechanics who when they fix your car give it something else to cause you to need their expertise again fairly soon.

Suicides are off the radar.

And so much guidance is required for such a project that there is no time for anything not offering any useful ideas suitable for success. I see it as a part of the evolutionary chain that hasn't been properly identified yet. All the best writers make constant reference to their literary forbears. They are really quite snobbish about it.

Anyway--after a little sniff I found this--

Quote:
When asked by a Brooklyn librarian about the situation, Twain replied:

I am greatly troubled by what you say. I wrote 'Tom Sawyer' & 'Huck Finn' for adults exclusively, & it always distressed me when I find that boys and girls have been allowed access to them. The mind that becomes soiled in youth can never again be washed clean. I know this by my own experience, & to this day I cherish an unappeased bitterness against the unfaithful guardians of my young life, who not only permitted but compelled me to read an unexpurgated Bible through before I was 15 years old. None can do that and ever draw a clean sweet breath again on this side of the grave.
Quote:


Those who disparage the Bible should think about that.





Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 04:21 pm
@Joe Nation,
The Wind Done Gone!
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 04:23 pm
@dlowan,
Quote:
Well, it's pretty much the story of the New Testament, you know, father, son and unholy ghost.


Nothing comes close to the NT that spares its readers the gruesome death of the Hero.

In a jesting effort it is permissible to allow the hero to survive but only by some miraculous conjunction of unlikely circumstances but not unlikely enough to be impossible. A speciality of Sir Henry Rider Haggard.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 04:29 pm
@spendius,
The Bridges of Toko-Ri, Red Badge of Courage,Dracula and Moby Dick all have death scenes far more grabbing than the NT.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 04:30 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
A speciality of Sir Henry Rider Haggard.


ANother hack like Bulwar Lytton
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 05:21 pm
Hey, excuse me.... Can I get the Chicken Caesar Salad and, no ,,,,wait,,, I think I just want to sit over in that corner and watch the crowds come in and out like tides.



Sorry, of course, of course I am ready to order.
A Manhattan made with Maker's Mark, please, a little dry, straight up.
Then I want the Caesar Salad with extra anchovies.
Then I want a nice piece of Tuna, grilled just barely black and blue with some frites, some steamed veggies and a big glass of something red, you pick.

Can we get some bread and olive oil for the table? Others are coming and I'd like to have something here when they arrive.

Joe(No, not the special water, just bottled, please)Nation
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 05:23 pm
@Joe Nation,
I'll have what Joe ordered, please, including the MMark manhattan. Hurry! I've just been cooking flatbreads and am weary.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 05:28 pm
ohhhhh good

bread and balsamic

I'm going to feel better as soon as I have some of Sybil's bread with that gooooey balsamic.
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 05:56 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
The Bridges of Toko-Ri, Red Badge of Courage,Dracula and Moby Dick all have death scenes far more grabbing than the NT.


That is simply because the NT spares the readers a graphic description of the ordeal Jesus endured to try to save us from our biological inheritance.

That I refrain from further comment should not be taken as signifying that I am incapable of it.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 06:00 pm
@Joe Nation,
You have very refined tastes Joe I must say. It is a very privileged position you are in. It's just a pity you have no idea of how difficult it was to arrange.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2013 06:02 pm
The notion that the god of the Bible “so loved” humanity that he (the god) gave up his only son…is an absurdity.

Essentially this is saying: I will forgive you for doing things that offend me, but I will only do it if you first torture and kill my son.

If a human were to suggest anything like this to debtors…he’d be locked up in a padded cell.
Lola
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2013 12:41 am
@dlowan,
Quote:
Well, it's pretty much the story of the New Testament, you know, father, son and unholy ghost.
With the Mississippi as the Jordan.
The Finn testament?

Very funny.
Lola
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2013 12:53 am
@spendius,
Quote:
@farmerman,
Quote:
The Bridges of Toko-Ri, Red Badge of Courage,Dracula and Moby Dick all have death scenes far more grabbing than the NT.

That is simply because the NT spares the readers a graphic description of the ordeal Jesus endured to try to save us from our biological inheritance.


Always look on the bright side of life.................
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Lola
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2013 12:58 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
The notion that the god of the Bible “so loved” humanity that he (the god) gave up his only son…is an absurdity.
Essentially this is saying: I will forgive you for doing things that offend me, but I will only do it if you first torture and kill my son.
If a human were to suggest anything like this to debtors…he’d be locked up in a padded cell.

Exactly. I've never understood why an example of sadomasochism should be admirable, much less a character trait or style of living to which one would aspire.
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Lola
 
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Reply Fri 15 Mar, 2013 01:01 am
@spendius,
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with your delightful elbows on the table

Why thank you spendi. Isn't that just the sweetest thing?
 

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