@farmerman,
Since I hang out at the Frying Pan so much, I have gotten a taste for Yuengling. At the Frying Pan, it is either Yuengling or Corona...the only two beers they carry. Both are okay...but okay really doesn't cut the mustard.
I was at Oktoberfest in Munich...and got to enjoy some of the authentic German brews!
@izzythepush,
They are good...as is Molson's Ale.
Canada is a good friend!
@Frank Apisa,
Canada used to make some real losers , like SAIL or SCHOONER. These were beers that, on a really good day would propogate a headache so bad that it would remind one of "Rheingold Headaches"
i used to go and tatse German beers, but they too were pasteurized except in the local "Garten"
Same thing with St Pauli or Dinkel Aker, these are only good in Deutchland. Anything bottled loses something in translation
My favorite beer was Yeungling Chesterfield Ale, but by the glass. Thomas an I were up to Yuengling several years ago and I was totally unimpressed with the swill they served us in the "tasting room"
@Lustig Andrei,
Wassau's translation: Fine beer is always appreciated at the cafe. Lola appreciates the finer beers.
Quote:But to say that "beer's beer" shows a callous disrespect for the brewer's art. Sam Adams or Anchor Steam or some of the local brews are not the same as Budweiser or Schlitz or Coors.
Sorry Andrei. I didn't mean to blaspheme. I'll say that I've never tasted a beer that I wanted to drink. And I'm hoping I never do. That's one less thing that makes me fat.
@spendius,
My son-in-law to be brews his own beer. But I have no idea if it's good or not. My daughter hasn't told me her opinion and I haven't tasted it. He's very proud though. And beer ethics and literacy are always to be considered when reading the bible, of course.
I don't crave alcohol - that's been well tested since I'm poorer these days - but I do like it, and as usual I have favorites.
I haven't chugged beer in a group of people ordering pitchers since the early seventies (the theater people), but sometimes in the hot summer I like a cold mexican beer, and sometimes in the winter I like a room temp craft beer, of which we had many to choose from on the west coast US. I'd like to try one of those Dogfish ales sometime.. aren't they around Baltimore?
I do like single malts, which I got to try a lot of since one of our friends had faculty parties and liked to stock a selection of good single malts and bourbons. You can tell where his salary went.. That spoiled me. He introduced us to a lot of good food and beverages, bless'm. And my husband and I had some irish whisky around sometimes, usually in the winter - Jamisons and Powers Three Swallows.
Wine, I've tasted some good ones with friends, in our better money days at our house, and in Italy by myself - a day or two before I left I finally tried a Barolo. Ahhhh. I ordered a bottle because the place only sold bottles, at least at that time (huge wine list - and a huge water list); had two glasses over what was probably two hours after walking all around Viterbo, and they only charged me for the glasses and not the full bottle, saying they'd drink the rest. It was quiet in there that day, not sure they would do that when busy. Wonderful place. Il Torre, if you're ever in Viterbo. Great food too.
Now when I drink, it's poorfool's chianti or rotgut whiskey. I throw ice in both of them, seems an improvement.
@farmerman,
Quote: All beverages have value and flavor and represent high art, engineering and science.
If you meant alcoholic beverages I agree wholeheartedly.
@ossobuco,
New Zealand Savingnon Blanc is the only alcoholic beverage I can't turn down. The nitrogen in the soil contributes to it's delicious citrus taste. Growing up, when I read books about people drinking alcoholic drinks, I always thought it would taste like lemon juice. I love lemon juice or anything sour. Yummmmm. So New Zealand produces a product that fits perfectly with my childhood fantasy. It's not often a person encounters this gratifying delight.
Beer, on the other hand tastes to me like medicine. Body chemistry, no doubt.
@Lola,
I tend to like sauvignon blanc but I have tried any from NZ.
On body chemistry, it took me a while to learn that it's at least partly a genetic matter that some people don't like anything that tastes bitter - especially some vegetables, but also some herbs.
Which reminds me, I like (well, I would) Italy's amari. Those are at least somewhat bitter and ofter quite bitter "digestivi", to sip after the meal. The most famously loathed one is Fernet Branca..of course I like it. My favorite was Amaro di Montenegro - not something you see in my local market here but they had it at LA's Beverage Warehouse, quite a store to visit.
@Lola,
Quote:My son-in-law to be brews his own beer.
I might be wrong but that sounds to me like No. 4 is on the slipway.
It struck me in the bath that if American beer says 4.2% on the label and is 2.1% in the glass, having been watered, then American men can imagine they can take it in the English meaning of the term when the fact is that they can't. A bit like all those guys we saw on the News tonight being so tough protecting us all from Bradley Manning.
All this aesthetic posturing and image identification is a load of TV bullshit. They key is the %. The problem for beer is that the number of people who are thirsty is reducing. If Lola did an 8 hour shift feeding a blast furnace with a shovel she would soon realise the attractions of beer. You can't relieve a thirst with wine or spirits for obvious reasons.
That's why I have hot baths every night. It is to generate a thirst now that I can't generate one as I used to.
@Frank Apisa,
Frank, where is the Frying Pan these days?
@spendius,
Quote:I might be wrong but that sounds to me like No. 4 is on the slipway.
No, spendi. My son-in-law to be is my daughter's fiance.
I'm off to bed early tonight. I have to get up at an ungodly hour tomorrow to catch a plane. I'll be uptown NYC this week end and will not be around much. I have to work sometime. And this week end is it. Love to all my cafe friends. Wassau will take good care of you while I'm away.
night night all.
@ossobuco,
Thanks Osso. Ok ok, I know I'm not in bed yet. But I'm going there now.
@Lola,
This late you might as well stay up all night. Coffee might help.
I just came by to say that georgeob posted a quotation
Quote:Stingers for my friends. -- and a plate of flies for my toad.
on another thread. When I searched for it on Google, I found this:
http://able2know.org/topic/11263-87
So does that make the cafe famous, or just o'george, or both?
Funny. It's just floating around out there on the internet.
@Lola,
All that data is being stored on computers which are being cooled by fans and air conditioning powered by electricity which is being produced largely by burning fossil fuels which is causing the polar icecaps to shrink and ever more violent storms to occur, droughts and floods, famine stalking the earth, and now krill is being harvested in industrial quantities in Antartica so hard luck on the great whales because that's their principal food, just so I can see Carol Vorderman on TV this morning urging me to take a daily Red Krill pill for the good of my health, and for what? so we can read what Lola and Bernie and George said in 2005? I fear we may have taken a wrong turning.
@Lola,
The Pan has moved up to 26th from 23rd. During the summer months, the place is now so mobbed, there are very, very long lines waiting to get on. The piers south of 26th have been converted into a terrific park...and the lines often stretch all the way down to the park.
If you remember, John (the owner) promised me that if ever there were a velvet rope, I (and my party) would be exempt. Unfortunately, John had a heart attack and died year before last. I still get on occasionally, but it is an effort.
@Frank Apisa,
Nobody goes there anymore because its so crowded.