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Lola at the Coffee House

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jun, 2013 04:13 pm
@BillW,
Did you live in Blythe or did you do custom cropping?
BillW
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jun, 2013 04:24 pm
Custom combiner - we cut from Texas to Montana then one year the boss got this job out in California. It made 125 bushel an acre, but it wasn't exactly the best wheat in the world. It was pretty light, and of course, all that straw wore the equipment out. I cut two years there, the first year we came back to the midwest and cut the circuit then went back to California for maize, the 2nd year we just stayed in California. I even cut some bermuda grass for seed that year. That stuff was so small, couldn't have even the smallest hole anywhere or it would drain out like water. But, it was very valuable.
BillW
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jun, 2013 04:28 pm
Needabump!
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jun, 2013 04:28 pm
and, another
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jun, 2013 04:54 pm
@farmerman,
On my way from California to New Mexico I stayed overnight in Blythe. I think I was the only one in the motel (fairly nice, actually). That was Christmas Eve. I was racing* to beat the moving truck, so didn't stay the holiday with family in LA area, though I did see them. Anyway, there was a Denny's or similar across the street. Straaaaange Christmas. Next stop, Tucson for the big day. Red Roof Inn, that one was.

*I don't drive from twilight on, so my 'racing' is a little different than others'.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jun, 2013 05:00 pm
@firefly,
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I had no idea what make it was--I had to ask the driver-


I know a few people who would say that that is just another variant on the " do you fancy a good time sailor?"

I would have certainly thought so myself were I to have been approached in such a manner in my better days. Had it been by a lady who appeared to have the basic necessities I would have invited her for a spin in the beast.

Nom, nom,nom nom nommy nom nom.

spendius
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jun, 2013 05:11 pm
@izzythepush,
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No he didn't, it was an advert for Country Life, that's British butter. Kerrygold is Irish.


I can't be expected to get everything right izz.

Did you ever see the butter advert with her as was in Absolutely Fabulous and the puppet with the trombone?

I have searched for it a few times but could never find it.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jun, 2013 05:13 pm
@spendius,
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I know a few people who would say that that is just another variant on the " do you fancy a good time sailor?"

I may be getting a bit racy in my old age, but not quite that racy. Laughing

He probably was more afraid I'd steal his car while he was shopping--I was eying the car more than I was eying him. It was a beauty--and he had the top off it.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jun, 2013 05:18 pm
@firefly,
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-and he had the top off it.


Shades of "wind blowin' in her hair".
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jun, 2013 05:54 pm
HBO, other sources report "The Sopranos" star James Gandolfini has died at age 51. RIP Tony Soprano!
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jun, 2013 06:28 pm
@edgarblythe,
I started a thread about his death.

http://able2know.org/topic/216506-1

A very talented actor. Such sad news.

farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jun, 2013 06:40 pm
@firefly,
Ive seen his other roles such as "Tiny" in All the King's Men and he still came across as Tony Soprano.

Often, Physical attribute character actors achieve a signature role and are stuck with it. Picture Andre the Giant, did he ever go beyond "the Princess Bride"?

firefly
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jun, 2013 07:57 pm
@farmerman,
Oh, I wouldn't describe him as a "physical attribute" character actor, fm. He was a big guy, but he could appear quite vulnerable--and he did, even as Tony Soprano. That was part of what he brought to the role--he created a multi-dimensional character--his acting was very nuanced. He was a very, very fine character actor.

I don't think he was stuck with a signature role, the way someone like Jean Stapleton was with Edith Bunker, or even Carol O'Connor with Archie, where it was difficult to think of them as anyone else.

And Gandolfini worked continuously after The Sopranos--on the stage, and in films. He even had a new HBO series coming up.

Anyway, I'm saddened he's gone.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jun, 2013 05:38 am
@firefly,
Don't get me wrong, I think his role as Tony Soprano was one of those roles that DEFINES a media for years to come (Think of any series, cable or network, that doesss not owe its very lines to the Sopranos). It was the Sopranos that defined the multi faceted lead character with many warts and difficulties. Tv was pretty much two dimensional in a story line for a seris (IN DRAMA) until the Sopranos came along.

His Jrsey accent was probably what put me off to some of his other roles. His "TINY" in Robert Penn Warrens "LL THE KINGS MEN", was supposedly a dramatic satire of the life of Huey Long and Tiney was a take off after Longs id de camp. I think Gandolfini did NOT do a very good job of bringing such a character to life. (Of course Sean PEnn phoned his role in also)
Having lived in Louisiana, political drama is a high art down there and I needed a better identification of characters with place. I didn't need a New Jersey drawl in Baton Rouge.

Roger Ebert had given Gandolfini several big thumbs ups in subsequent roles. Im gonna have to rent some and watch again (I INT gonna rent All the Kings Men cause Im still too critical of that version of a semi-classic)
firefly
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jun, 2013 12:38 pm
@farmerman,
I'm in wholehearted agreement with you about that remark of All the King's Men. I found that movie so bad, when compared to the original, that I never saw the entire movie. Despite two attempts to sit through it, I wound up turning it off because it really failed to hold my attention--and I'll generally sit through almost anything to the end.

I found Gandolfini's ability to express Tony Soprano's rage really frightening. In that really big fight between Tony and Carmela, I was feeling genuinely afraid Carmela would wind up dead. The amount of rage that Gandolfini was able to project scared the hell out of me, and not that many actors have been able to affect me quite that way. At other times, Gandolfini really had me feeling sympathy and empathy for the guy, based on his acting, and not just the storyline.

They are still running Sopranos re-runs on cable. The ones I'd like to see again are the early episodes, the ones with Nancy Marchand as Tony's mother Livia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livia_Soprano
I thought those episodes, and the dark humor in them, was priceless. We haven't seen many moms on TV like Livia Soprano. And Marchand was just wonderful in bringing her to life.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jun, 2013 12:42 pm
@firefly,
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I found Gandolfini's ability to express Tony Soprano's rage really frightening. In that really big fight between Tony and Carmela, I was feeling genuinely afraid Carmela would wind up dead.
My wife said about the same thing. I was also affected at the time he gave a "pep talk" to his captains about increasing uptakes of money from the streets and businesses. He was evil personified, was he not?
firefly
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jun, 2013 01:37 pm
@farmerman,
At times he was evil personified, at other times he was a guy who loved his children, and had panic attacks and saw a therapist.

But, at all times, Tony Soprano was an interesting, and complex character.

I do wish they had ended the series in a better way than that final ambiguous blackout. Oh, did I howl when that screen went to black--I was really mad because I felt so cheated. I kept saying, "That was it?" I couldn't believe it.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jun, 2013 01:39 pm
@firefly,
I gather the writing was good too - I'm an old tv writing fan though I don't have tv now.
firefly
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jun, 2013 01:46 pm
@ossobuco,
The writing was excellent. The acting and direction were excellent. It was as top-notch as a TV dramatic series could get. And it really broke new ground for cable TV.

Six Feet Under was another good one, although not quite as good as The Sopranos.

You don't watch TV at all now, osso?
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jun, 2013 02:13 pm
@firefly,
David Chase was interviewed about his ending of the Sopranos for the Newark Star Ledger in 2009 and here's Chases own words and the writers second feed:
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What do you do when your TV world ends? You go to dinner, then keep quiet. Sunday night, "Sopranos" creator David Chase took his wife out for dinner in France, where he's fled to avoid "all the Monday morning quarterbacking" about the show's finale. After this exclusive interview, agreed to well before the season began, he intends to go into radio silence, letting the work -- especially the controversial final scene -- speak for itself.

"I have no interest in explaining, defending, reinterpreting, or adding to what is there," he says of the final scene.

"No one was trying to be audacious, honest to God," he adds. "We did what we thought we had to do. No one was trying to blow people's minds, or thinking, 'Wow, this'll (tick) them off.' People get the impression that you're trying to (mess) with them and it's not true. You're trying to entertain them."

In that scene, mob boss Tony Soprano waited at a Bloomfield ice cream parlor for his family to arrive, one by one. What was a seemingly benign family outing was shot and cut as the preamble to a tragedy, with Tony suspiciously eyeing one patron after another, the camera dwelling a little too long on Meadow's parallel parking and a man in a Members Only jacket's walk to the men's room. Just as the tension had been ratched up to unbearable levels, the series cut to black in mid-scene (and mid song) with no resolution.

"Anybody who wants to watch it, it's all there," says Chase, 61, who based the series in general (and Tony's relationship with mother Livia specifically) on his North Caldwell childhood.

Some fans have already assumed that the ambiguous ending was Chase setting up the oft-rumored "Sopranos" movie, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards.

"I don't think about (a movie) much," he says. "I never say never. An idea could pop into my head where I would go, 'Wow, that would make a great movie,' but I doubt it.

"I'm not being coy," he adds. "If something appeared that really made a good 'Sopranos' movie and you could invest in it and everybody else wanted to do it, I would do it. But I think we've kind of said it and done it."

Another problem: over the last season, Chase killed so many key characters. He's toyed with the idea of "going back to a day in 2006 that you didn't see, but then (Tony's children) would be older than they were then and you would know that Tony doesn't get killed. It's got problems."

(Earlier in the interview, he notes that his favorite part of the show was often the characters telling stories about the good ol' days of Tony's parents. Just a guess, but if Chase ever does a movie spin-off, it'll be set in Newark in the '60s.)

Since Chase is declining to offer his interpretation of the final scene, let me present two more of my own, which came to me with a good night's sleep and a lot of helpful reader e-mails:

Theory No. 1 (and the one I prefer): Chase is using the final scene to place the viewer into Tony's mindset. This is how he sees the world: every open door, every person walking past him could be coming to kill him, or arrest him, or otherwise harm him or his family. This is his life, even though the paranoia's rarely justified. We end without knowing what Tony's looking at because he never knows what's coming next.

Theory No. 2: In the scene on the boat in "Soprano Home Movies," repeated again last week, Bobby Bacala suggests that when you get killed, you don't see it coming. Certainly, our man in the Members Only jacket could have gone to the men's room to prepare for killing Tony (shades of the first "Godfather"), and the picture and sound cut out because Tony's life just did. (Or because we, as viewers, got whacked from our life with the show.)

Meanwhile, remember that 21-month hiatus between Seasons Five and Six? That was Chase thinking up the ending. HBO chairman Chris Albrecht came to him after Season Five and suggested thinking up a conclusion to the series; Chase agreed, on the condition that he get "a long break" to decide on an ending.

Originally, that ending was supposed to occur last year, but midway through production, the number of episodes was increased, and Chase stretched out certain plot elements while saving the major climaxes for this final batch of 9.

"If this had been one season, the Vito storyline would not have been so important," he says.

Much of this final season has featured Tony bullying, killing or otherwise alienating the members of his inner circle. After all those years viewing him as "the sympathetic mob boss," were we supposed to, like his therapist Dr. Melfi, finally wake up and smell the sociopath?

"From my perspective, there's nothing different about Tony in this season than there ever was," insists Chase. "To me, that's Tony."




I like Theory no 1













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