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Lola at the Coffee House

 
 
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 09:28 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:
They are, basically, junk as things stand.


there's your answer.

they're junk.

toss 'em

___

Wassau, what was the idea with all of that garlic in this morning's breakfast? Did we really need three forms of garlic in one omelette?
vonny
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 09:37 am
@firefly,
Quote:
Are you even sure bone china is oven-proof enough to withstand being in the high heat of grilling temperatures?


I wouldn't try it. I lost two Royal Dalton dinner plates when they shattered after being on a plate warmer.
vonny
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 09:37 am
bump
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vonny
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 09:38 am
bumps
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 10:02 am
@vonny,
vonny wrote:

Quote:
Are you even sure bone china is oven-proof enough to withstand being in the high heat of grilling temperatures?


I wouldn't try it. I lost two Royal Dalton dinner plates when they shattered after being on a plate warmer.


that's odd.

bone china should hold up to quite a bit of heat - they've been produced in a kiln where temps are higher than anything we can create in our kitchens
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 10:04 am
@firefly,
Quote:
Are you even sure bone china is oven-proof enough to withstand being in the high heat of grilling temperatures? If the plates shatter, you'd really have a mess.


I had not thought of that. But it ceased to be a consideration once I discovered what sort of plates they are.

I'm now into the LGC line of attack. There are other items from the same source coming up in the next sale. Cups and saucers. Carvers--that sort of ****. I saw two lots when I picked these plates up but at that time I hadn't discovered they were Royal Doultons so I didn't take a lot of notice. If I can make up a nice dinner service of Royal Doultons with a personalised crest for a person with initials LGC, who can afford to indulge his sense of self importance, I might make the bell ring.

The crest is a shield not quite an inch high and a little more than half an inch wide. The blue lettering is very fancy. So much so that the L could easily be an H and thus increase my potential market to include HGCs as well. At the base of the shield below where the golf clubs or hockey sticks cross there is a hectagon in red containing tiny patterns. This crest is on the top rim of every plate and on the outside of the cups.

I'm more a capitalist than a culinary connoisseur of cheesy chomping choices.
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 10:15 am
@ehBeth,
Quote:
that's odd.

bone china should hold up to quite a bit of heat - they've been produced in a kiln where temps are higher than anything we can create in our kitchens

It may be odd, but, once produced, the china can't withstand high or extreme heat and shouldn't be used for cooking.

This is from the Royal Doulton Web site
Quote:
. It is safe to warm your fine bone china and fine china plates and serving dishes in the warming compartment of your oven up to 150°F. Never place china in contact with a direct flame or subject it to extreme temperature change. Pieces with a gold or platinum band or detail are not microwave safe. Fine bone china should not be used for cooking purposes. Fine china is suitable for use in the freezer.
http://na.wwrd.com/ae/us/customer-service/product-use+care/page/csproductcare/
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 10:51 am
@spendius,
Quote:
I'm more a capitalist than a culinary connoisseur of cheesy chomping choices.

Or, you're more of a cheesy capitalist than a culinary connoisseur. Smile

You seem to be onto some good, and lucrative, re-cycling ideas. So that solves your predicament about what to do with the plates.

I'd be curious about who originally owned the plates, given the initials and the crest, but that's me.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 10:54 am
@firefly,
You wouldn't want the bone china on top of an open fire but as long as you put it in an oven at a steady temp there shouldn't be a problem. mrs hamburgboy put the bone china into the oven to warm up at a pretty good temp for decades and I do the same - no problems.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 10:57 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:
So much so that the L could easily be an H and thus increase my potential market to include HGCs as well.


it may be different in the U.K. than it is in Canada, but the reason you can get bone china (and crystal and silver) stinking cheap at auction here is that there is no market for the stuff. People are willing to pay more for paper and plastic plates than they are for bone china.

Same thing with furniture. Particle board shelving goes for more than real wood at auction. blerrrgh
Rockhead
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 10:59 am
@ehBeth,
auctions have become much more interesting in recent years.

amazing what we throw away now...
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 11:04 am
@Rockhead,
I've bought the contents of hope chests a couple of times. Beautiful linens that had been untouched for many many decades. One box had been unopened for just under a hundred years. It initially upset mrs hamburger that I put them into use right away, but I think it's better to love and use them than to hide them in a box.

Then people would bid on used sheets from the 1960's and 70's and pay a stupid large amount of money for them. Bizarre.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 11:12 am
@ehBeth,
You have got it Beth.

I said they were junk myself but I can't throw plates like these away. I just haven't got it in me. The garden shed is where most of them are going. And I'm going to the next auction.

One of the interesting things I have found out is that NIMBYs were at it in the 19th cenrury. The glazing process which was first used in London to make this kind of china produced poisonous fumes and so the manufacture of them was transferred about 100 miles further north where the population was not allowed to be so fastidious. So long as the profits and the plates were sent to London everything was just as it should be.

It's the same with nuclear power stations.

I only have ADD regarding the big things which are easy to talk about.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 11:17 am
@vonny,
Quote:
I lost two Royal Dalton dinner plates when they shattered after being on a plate warmer.


Are you sure they weren't imitations vonny? (snides we call them) There's a lot of that stuff about.
vonny
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 11:19 am
@spendius,
Quite sure, Spendius. I don't like fakes - any kind of fakes!
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 11:30 am
@Rockhead,
Quote:
amazing what we throw away now...


It certainly is Rockie. The main reason I go to the auction house on viewing day is to look at the trends. I've been going for years.

vonny
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 11:37 am
@ehBeth,
Quote:
vonny wrote:


Quote:

Are you even sure bone china is oven-proof enough to withstand being in the high heat of grilling temperatures?
I wouldn't try it. I lost two Royal Dalton dinner plates when they shattered after being on a plate warmer.
that's odd.
vonny
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 01:24 pm
@vonny,
odd that my cursor decided to press REPLY of its own volition!

As I was saying ...
my plate warmer consists of an antiquated affair with several tea-lights beneath a silver framed tray - even a heatproof dish fractured in two places recently, as did the Royal Doulton plates. But a couple of really old bone china plates from a redundant service did, and do, heat up beautifully on it with no signs of cracking or crazing. I guess the moral of this story is that bone china isn't made like it used to be!!!
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 01:56 pm
I watched a pbs documentary about Jake Shimabukoro--I had never heard of him before. He's great! Hope you enjoy listening to him.

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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 03:48 pm
@spendius,
Mmmm...

This could be a new hobby for you. Start scrounging around, find more, other valuables, keep the shed locked I mean ya never know who is out there, and then start selling your goods tripling your money.... I certainly could never use one of those and throw it away... (must take photo) ...

I am like you Beth, what ever I buy that is antique I have no problems using, I don't use them on a day to day basis, imitation plates in all sorts of colours are good enough, have a green and white one with gold trim, my favourite and it's just a plate from china. But I will use them...

In Aussie Land they are warranted. You pay $14 for a teapot and can on-sell for $70 or more on E-Bay... Pretty weird.

I think we've had enough of plates? What about cups and saucers - green tea please ....

 

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