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Does the expression/depiction " abundant of reason, full of passion" work?

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oristarA
 
Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2012 07:37 am
If not, edit it please.

...but his arguments of defense, abundant of reason, full of passion, rigorous in logicality and powerful in strength, gave the public a profound impression.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2012 08:38 am
@oristarA,

...but his arguments of defense, abundance of reason, displays of passion, rigorous logicality, power and strength all gave the public a profound impression.
oristarA
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2012 08:45 am
@Region Philbis,
Region Philbis wrote:


...but his arguments of defense, abundance of reason, displays of passion, rigorous logicality, power and strength all gave the public a profound impression.


Better.
Why not just " display of passion", I wonder?
contrex
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2012 09:15 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:

Why not just " display of passion", I wonder?


Because there were more than one? Where did you get this text?
oristarA
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2012 09:34 am
@contrex,
contrex wrote:

oristarA wrote:

Why not just " display of passion", I wonder?


Because there were more than one? Where did you get this text?



I made it/translated it.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2012 10:44 am
@oristarA,

it could be either 'display' or 'displays'...
oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 23 Dec, 2012 12:06 am
@Region Philbis,
Region Philbis wrote:


it could be either 'display' or 'displays'...


Thanks.
I think "full of passion" is natural English while "abundant of reason" seems not.
What do you think?
contrex
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Reply Sun 23 Dec, 2012 04:36 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:
I think "full of passion" is natural English while "abundant of reason" seems not.


You are correct. "Full" is correctly followed by the preposition "of", but "abundant" should be followed by "with".

Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sun 23 Dec, 2012 09:15 am
@contrex,

"abundance of reason" is grammatically correct...
contrex
 
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Reply Sun 23 Dec, 2012 11:31 am
@Region Philbis,
Region Philbis wrote:


"abundance of reason" is grammatically correct...


By itself, maybe. The partial sentence is:

but his arguments of defense, (which were) abundant* of reason, full* of passion, rigorous* in logicality and powerful* in strength, gave the public a profound impression.

* adjectives

Also one gives people an impression of something, or the impression that something is the case. I would prefer "made a powerful impression on the public."



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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 23 Dec, 2012 11:36 am
@oristarA,

I don't believe I've ever seen "logicality" before. I don't like it, and would prefer the simpler "logic".
oristarA
 
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Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 01:00 am
@McTag,
McTag wrote:


I don't believe I've ever seen "logicality" before. I don't like it, and would prefer the simpler "logic".


That is historically fine. Your opinion is excellent in morden days.
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roger
 
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Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 01:06 am
@oristarA,
I'm always odd man out, but I kind of like it. Assuming the original was kind of lyrical, it may be an excellent translation.
oristarA
 
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Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 02:02 am
@roger,
roger wrote:

I'm always odd man out, but I kind of like it. Assuming the original was kind of lyrical, it may be an excellent translation.


The formal version is:

...but his arguments of defense, abundant with reason, full of passion, rigorous in logicality and powerful in strength, gave the public a profound impression.

A taste of good wine in Victorian era.
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