No! I don’t see anything wrong there, it is all exactly as I have said, you are unconcerned and uncommitted on the subject at issue. You admit that you don’t know if any God exists, but then you admit that you don’t know if any God does not exist.
You see no reason to suspect that gods cannot exist, nor do you see any reason to suspect that the existence of any god is needed to explain existence. You don’t see enough unambiguous evidence upon which to base a meaningful guess in either direction on whether any gods exist or not, in other words, you are uncommitted on the subject.
You go on to say; “When I use the word "GOD or gods" here, I mean "The entity (or entities) responsible for the creation of what we humans call 'the physical universe'. And then, you go on to reveal your total mental confusion, by even doubting that the entity or entities, that you referred to as god or gods. actually exist.
So, like I said, you know nothing on the subject, where as I know, according to scientific evidence, that energy is eternal, having neither beginning or end, and that it, and it alone has become this universe and all the life forms in the universe which is the eternal energy, and all the information gathered by the lifeforms that the eternal is, are stored in the ‘GREAT THOUGHT’ that is it, which is all that exists.
So, you see, I have a reason to believe that a God exists, who is all that exists and is in all that exists.
What I meant about me and Franks reaching a full asymptote is based on me not knowing whether a god or gods exist but I feel that the scientific evidence is quite strong in at least pointing to the negative,
, I do not know if gods exist or not...but to say that means I am unconcerned on the issue is absurd. I AM concerned and interested, which accounts for the many decades of debate in which I have engaged on the issue...
Science is beginning to now believe that which our ancestors knew thousands of years ago, and that is, that we live in an eternal oscillating universe.
Continued from my previous post.
Around the Super Black Hole at the centre of our Milky Way Galaxy, orbits many other black holes, which were created from the collapse of Gigantic stars that had formed in the galaxy, or which were once at the centre of other lesser galactic bodies that have merged with ours.
There are perhaps twenty small galaxies that orbit the Milky Way, like moths around a flame.
The larger Magellanic Cloud (Nebecula Major) and the smaller Magellanic Cloud (Nebecula Minor) are two galaxies that are orbiting our Milky Way galaxy which orbits the central Super Black Hole to which those Magellanic Clouds are being gathered and will one day merge with our galaxy.
The earlier explanations as to a mysterious stream of Gas, which appeared to stretch from them to our galaxy, was the result of gravitational interaction between the two Magellanic clouds, and so, was thought to be coming from them. But researchers from the Leibniz institute for Astrophysics in Germany, taking into account, the best understanding of the diffuse hot Gas that our Milky Way, [Its Corona], couldn’t get that stream of Gas to form, so they came to the conclusion that they simply don’t understand the Milky way’s corona very well. But another possible explanation put forward by them, is that, rather than originating from the Magellanic Clouds, that stream of Gas could be coming from a different Galaxy altogether, which is being devoured, as it plunges into our Milky Way.
Only recently in 2020, scientists witnessed two events ten days apart, of Black Holes devouring neutron stars.
The Super Black Hole at the centre of our being will continue to grow as it devours the other lesser black Holes, dying stars, and planets within this galaxy. And yet our galaxy is but one of billions of galaxies that are falling in toward the super gravitational anomaly that is called the ‘Great Attractor’. And even that which is called the ‘Great Attractor’ is flowing toward the Shapley Supercluster? Is there something at the core of the ever-growing Shapley Supercluster that is pulling all the galaxies in our particular section of this boundless cosmos to itself?
Or is it simply the gravitational attraction of the galaxies to each other that has caused the Shapley concentration to grow to the size it is today and continues to grow, as the other galactic clusters in our region are being gathered to it, while the more distant clusters appear to be accelerating away?
Today, we have absolute proof that black Holes do exist, much information regarding them remains to be gathered, which future information will hopefully open many windows to shine light on this subject of Black Holes, wormholes, also called Einstein-Rosen bridges and White Holes.
Our Milky Way galaxy is said to be anchored in space by a super Black hole, which has a mass of some three to four million suns, and if you think that’s a big black hole, consider this; “In December of 2019, astronomers announced the discovery of one of the biggest black holes ever measured in the nearby universe. That black hole is at the center of an elliptical galaxy in galaxy cluster Abel 85, and has been calculated to be 40 billion times the mass of our sun, which is equivalent to two-thirds the mass of the 100-billion stars in the Milky Way and is roughly the size of our entire solar system.”
Our Milky Way and the nearby Andromeda Galaxy, which are two spiral galaxies are on a collision course, and when these two spiral galaxies collide, they can merge and form an elliptical galaxy, which elliptical galaxies can collide and merge again to form an even larger elliptical galaxy.
The central Black holes of those elliptical galaxies also merge and combine to make one massive Black Hole, and those Massive galaxies, which are called ‘core galaxies’ are believed to be the main attractive force at the center of galactic clusters, which clusters are being attracted to a super Duper gravitational anomaly within the Shapley Super Cluster, which is the largest concentration of galaxies in our nearby universe that forms a gravitational anomaly that is pulling itself together instead of expanding with the universe.
It is believed that pairs of spiral galaxies form elliptical galaxies, pairs of those elliptical galaxies form cored elliptical galaxies, and a pair of cored galaxies formed Holmberg 15A, and that this series of mergers also created the ultra-massive black hole in its center, a monster nearly as big as our solar system with the mass of around 40 billion suns.
When will this process end? Will there eventually end up being only one super galaxy orbiting an immeasurable monstrous Black Hole wherein the centre of which, will be crushed all our known universe into the singularity from which our universe began, where the volume of space is zero and its density is infinite? Are we looking at an eternal oscillating universe?
The Norma Cluster is a massive cluster of galaxies containing a preponderance of large, old galaxies, many of which are colliding with their neighbours and radiating large amounts of radio waves.
Nah mate, all scientific evidence on how our universe is evolving, which is way beyond the ability of the agnostics who are unconcerned and uncommitted on any subject at issue, to even begin to comprehend.
Why do you continue to reveal to the world just how ignorant you are to 'ANY'
Oh, alright, seeing as I don't have a dummy for it to suck on, I will have to pacify the child by answering its last question, which was; "Why must the entity or entities responsible for the creation of what we humans call 'the physical universe, be what you, in your disgusting atheist tongue, call; "that disgusting creature described in those "scriptures."
And the answer is, because the entity-entities that the greatest scientific minds that have ever existed claim are responsible for the creation of what we humans call 'the physical universe, is one and the same as explained in the scriptures, "And Now let 'US' make man in 'OUR' image.
Suck on that kiddo, you're on the wrong team.
And we call that androgynous creator 'GOD'.
No blind guesses there bubby, oh I meant to write buddy, but bubby will do. Science has proved that the singularity of origin is still that singular oneness that has become the universe and all within, including all the information that the singularity has gained, through the senses of all the life forms that the singularity has become in this period of universal activity.
And He is the divine reality of the universe, the eternal spirit from who all being originates and to who all being must return at the close of each period of universal activity.
Following each expansion. there is a contraction. Now you go and lie down and rest that 'little' head of yours.
And what do you believe is the Abrahamic classic concept of God?
According to science there is only one thing that cannot be created nor ever be destroyed, 'MEANING' it is eternal with neither beginning or end, and that one thing is the electromagnetic energy that was spewed out in the trillions upon trillions of degrees when the singularity of origin was spatially separated in the event that is called 'The Big Bang', which was the beginning of the expanding space, there was nothing at the instant of 'The Big Bang' other than that eternal energy and it has become everything in existence, and every life form it has become, are merely information gathers for "THE GREAT never ending evolving eternal THOUGHT."
Excerpts from the link provided.
In fact, it has now been revealed that matter is no more than an illusion. Quantum physicists have revealed that so called physical atoms are made up of vortices of energy that are constantly spinning and vibrating, each one radiating its own unique energy signature.
If you observe the composition of an atom with a microscope you would see a small, invisible tornado-like vortex, with a number of infinitely small energy vortices called quarks and photons. These are what make up the structure of the atom. As you focused in closer and closer on the structure of the atom, you would see nothing, you would observe a physical void. The atom has no physical structure, we have no physical structure, physical things really don’t have any physical structure! Atoms are made out of “INVISIBLE ENERGY”, not tangible matter.
Pioneering physicist Sir James Jeans wrote: “The stream of knowledge is heading toward a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like "A GREAT THOUGHT" than like a great machine. Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter, we ought rather hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter. (R. C. Henry, “The Mental Universe”; Nature 436:29, 2005)
Jeremiah 23: 23-24; “I am a God who is everywhere and not in one place only. No one can hide where I cannot see him. Do you not know that I am everywhere in heaven and on earth? He has eyes and ears everywhere throughout the universe that is he.
Every living thing within this apparent boundless cosmos, are merely information gatherers for the eternal energy which manifests itself as this living universe and is all that exists and is, ’The Great Thought,’ the collective consciousness of all that exists.
At any given point in time, you are no more than inches away from a spider, fly, ant, or any other of the many information gatherers of the eternal, who is all that exists.
You are no more than a speck of dust in the GREAT ever evolving mind, which is the same today as it was yesterday and into the everlasting. It is the only constant in the fact that it is constantly evolving from everlasting to everlasting. The only mind that has ceased to evolve, is the mind that has ceased to exist,