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Did Oswald assassinate President Kennedy?

 
 
Reply Thu 22 Nov, 2012 01:12 pm
"On this day, 1963, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, the 35th president of the United States, is assassinated while traveling through Dallas, Texas, in an open-top convertible.

As their vehicle passed the Texas School Book Depository Building at 12:30 p.m., Lee Harvey Oswald allegedly fired three shots from the sixth floor, fatally wounding President Kennedy and seriously injuring Governor Connally. Kennedy was pronounced dead 30 minutes later at Dallas' Parkland Hospital. He was 46.

As their vehicle passed the Texas School Book Depository Building at 12:30 p.m., Lee Harvey Oswald allegedly fired three shots from the sixth floor, fatally wounding President Kennedy and seriously injuring Governor Connally. Kennedy was pronounced dead 30 minutes later at Dallas' Parkland Hospital. He was 46.

Less than an hour after Kennedy was shot, Oswald allegedly killed a policeman who questioned him on the street near his rooming house in Dallas. Thirty minutes later, Oswald was arrested in a movie theater by police responding to reports of a suspect. He was formally arraigned on November 23 for the murders of President Kennedy and Officer J.D. Tippit."

history.com

Whether Oswald did it or not will probably never be known. I can still remember the bewildered look on his face when he asked the camera, "what am I doing here?

One thing for sure -- there was no pre-planning because the route was changed the day before, and the convertible was also a last minute change. The rifle proved to be his, but would he leave it at the scene? There were also overly agitated policemen looking for anyone who looked suspicious

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Fate leads him who follows it, drags him who resist. Plutarch
 
Simplexity
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2012 04:58 am
@Rickoshay75,
i don't know what to believe, when i look over the killing, one of the bullets appears to be travelling from a completely different direction as opposed to the other two.
here's hoping NARA scratch our itch and give us some decent info next year for the anniversary. inevitably it will be just a complete middle finger, but fingers crossed no matter what.
(tragically) all i have is an opinion; which remains to be an onslaught of perplexed theories.
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Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2012 12:22 pm
@Rickoshay75,
I honestly don't believe we will ever know the whole truth of the matter. The cover-up has been that good.

There are so many unanswered questions and so many inconsistencies in the official assassination story as endorsed by the Warren Commission that I, for one, can never believe that Oswald acted alone and on his own, or that he was even the main shooter. It simply does not hang together.
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2PacksAday
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2012 10:05 pm
Personally, I think Oswald acted alone.
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2012 02:29 pm
@2PacksAday,
I have stood in Dealy Square in Dallas, looked up at the sixth floor windows of the School Book Depository and down at the parade route and remember thinking, "That would have to be one hell of a lucky shot. And with a bolt-action rifle? There's no way he could get off three accurate shots in the amount of time that the Zapruder film recorded."

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, 2Packs, but I just can't buy it.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2012 05:07 pm
Personally, I think it is more likely that Oswald acted alone that is is likely that the following book is worth reading.
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Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2012 05:19 pm
@parados,
Bill O'Reilly knows how to write? Who knew?
parados
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2012 05:26 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
I think Bill O'Reilly knows how to put his name on a book written by (&) Martin Dugard.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2012 05:30 pm
@parados,
Of course the assassination of JFK could have been done by:


Bill O'Reilly
&
Lee Harvey Oswald
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2PacksAday
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2012 06:00 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
Yep, just my opinion, I could very well be wrong....it would not surprise me in the least.....and believe me Merry, by no means do I want to debate the whole Kennedy thing with anyone.....been there done that to death. It's kinda funny though, a few nights ago, I read nearly your exact statement, but the reverse in an online post I ran across, written by a former marine....about the ease of the shot{s} I'll see if I can track it down.

All {meaning grand, and great grand} of my parents believed that there was a massive cover up, they are/were hard core Kennedy fans....with me being the one sole nasty evil Republican in the entire family. I do actually like Kennedy overall, much akin to my liking of Clinton....Clinton basically handed the Rep party at great deal of the things that "we" wanted. I would be lying if I didn't admit that, there really isn't any president that I hate....well one, U.S. Grant, but that's a different ball of wax.....chalk it all up to my schoolboy ideas of the POTUS, being someone to look up to.

By whoevers hand, and for whatever reason, JFK's death was probably the biggest thing to happen in the latter half of the 20th century, save perhaps the falling of the Berlin wall {which was a massive decades long group effort, even I will admit that Mr Reagan had some help with that task {that's a joke of course}....at least, I doubt any other single event had such an impact on that generation....and those thereafter. It's hard for me not to think of Bobby and Dr King when thinking of Jack's untimely death.....it's a shitty feeling....I'll say that I'm glad I wasn't alive then to see it all happen.

For some, Kennedy's death equates to the Vietnam war, I don't buy into that....who knows where or how deep into the war he would have taken us, could have been even worse ya know....was the war totally futile?....I tend to think yes, since we didn't accomplish....anything.....but the fact that he drew the line in the sand against communism there....has to stand for something.
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2012 06:09 pm
@2PacksAday,
I certainly agree with you re: the Vietnam disaster. There is no reason whatever to think that JFK would have been instrumental in ending or curtailing our involvement in 'Nam. People have forgotten that it was during the Kennedy admin. that the war began to escalate and that, in a real sense, LBJ was just carrying on the policy that Jack had set into motion. It took a Republican, Tricky Dick Nixon, to end the mess and get our men and women out of there. And I say that, being certainly no Republican as everyone here knows.

I'll tell you another thing -- if it wasn't Oswald acting alone (as I believe), I have no idea what the ultimate motive in offing JFK was. Well, he had enough enemies. Some in pretty high places.

2PacksAday
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2012 06:47 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
To think that Castro, or Sam Giancana, or even LBJ were directly responsible for Jack's death, can all be so easily romanticized....or even Woody Harrelsons father....oh so you're a hollywood star I think I heard of you....yeah but my dad was the shooter on the grassy knoll....wow she says....as her undergarments fall off.....

It's more common today with all the random shootings, {actually, my police chief worked the crime scene at the Luby's shooting when he was a younger man} Texas has it's own little legacy for this type of thing....JFK, Charles Whitman, Luby's, Fort Hood massacre, etc...anyway, the lone nuts out there are prevalent nowadays....the midnight Batman shootings a few months ago....

I just think that an unstable young man, with an axe to grind, backed with some military training....decided to kill our president. It may be to simple an explanation for most people to swallow...I mean how could, as Elton John said about Lennon's assassination, in Empty Garden...."It's funny how one insect can damage so much grain"....how could one little sick twerp foul up the entire country...it's just that easy to do.
roger
 
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Reply Mon 26 Nov, 2012 11:18 pm
@2PacksAday,
You left out the Cuban refugees. Kennedy called off air support for the bay of pigs, and they retaliated. Of course, we probably forgot lots more possibilities.
sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 09:28 am
@2PacksAday,
That's approximately my take on it too. I do see some room for something else more complicated, and I'm usually anti-conspiracy-theory. But your description is what seems most likely to me.
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2PacksAday
 
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Reply Tue 27 Nov, 2012 08:09 pm
@roger,
Yeah them too Rog, and the three tramps, the guy with the umbrella, the dude hiding in the storm drain....crazy acoustics....and who could forget Stone's words spoken by Costner...."back and to the left, back and to the left"....David Ferrie, Clay Shaw/Bertrand...Jack Ruby's Raul, no.....wait, Raul belonged to James Earl Ray.....Ruby's secret guy was named Davis.

I did enjoy one of the conspiracy books, "Mortal Error" for the most part the book is very factual/mathematical in the authors dealings with the ballistics of the Kennedy/Connally shooting....the so called magic bullet. But then goes on to get a bit creative...but yet again plausible....idea that one of the secret service men riding behind Kennedy accidentally popped off a round from his {I think an AR 15 } rifle, into the back of Kennedy's head.
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nothingtodo
 
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Reply Sat 15 Dec, 2012 10:54 am
@Rickoshay75,
The question itself will never ever be answered, as long as human history or indeed the universe exists.. At least not in provable terms, if Oswald was birthed a human being.. Or the real culprit was.

You can state that before God and he cannot ever punish under guise of 'correctness'.

Quite the trick, but that's buy the buy to most.
See how third person makes a difference?
'I'.

You can however prove it, if aliens had a part in it... remarkable.
No I will not delete pandorum minimus.
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Rickoshay75
 
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Reply Mon 25 Nov, 2013 01:50 pm
@2PacksAday,
Personally, I think Oswald acted alone. >>

They did find Oswald's rifle fired three times, hid in his work station, but that doesn't mean he did it, only that he could have.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 25 Nov, 2013 04:41 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
Lustig Andrei wrote:
There's no way he could get off three accurate shots in the amount of time that the Zapruder film recorded."

He didn't. The first shot missed entirely. The second shot hit Kennedy in the neck. The third hit him in the head. If Oswald was aiming for Kennedy's head, then he only got off one accurate shot.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 25 Nov, 2013 04:43 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:

You left out the Cuban refugees. Kennedy called off air support for the bay of pigs, and they retaliated. Of course, we probably forgot lots more possibilities.

Everybody did it.
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