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Does "other great apes" include "tamarins"?

 
 
Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2012 04:54 am
If not included, should " that they considered as evidence for mirror recognition in chimpanzees or other great apes" be " that they considered as evidence for mirror recognition for cotton-top tamarins as that in chimpanzees or other great apes"?

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In 1995, Hauser reported that cotton-top tamarins can recognize themselves in a mirror.[31] Gordon G. Gallup questioned Hauser's findings, and reviewed some video recordings of Hauser's experiment, saying that “when I played the videotapes [for Hauser's experiments], there was not a thread of compelling evidence — scientific or otherwise — that any of the tamarins had learned to correctly decipher mirrored information about themselves.’’[13] Upon requesting the remaining videotapes, Gallup was informed that the other tapes had been stolen.[32] Together with Anderson, Gallup published a critical response to Hauser's article.[33] Their criticism of Hauser's paper stated that the coding criteria were described in insufficient detail to code the monkeys' behavior and that, according to their assessment, the cotton-top tamarins did not show the behavior that they considered as evidence for mirror recognition in chimpanzees or other great apes.[33]
 
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2012 08:02 am
@oristarA,
I'm not sure. To me, the "great apes" just means the biggest ones, which would be such species as gorilla, orang-utan, chimpanzee, bonobo and maybe one or two more.

Not monkeys.

(EDIT) The Wikipedia entry includes the following:

The Hominidae (play /hɒˈmɪnɨdiː/; also known as great apes[notes 1]), form a taxonomic family of primates, including four extant genera: chimpanzees and bonobos (Pan),[notes 2] gorillas (Gorilla), humans (Homo), and orangutans (Pongo).[1]

The term "hominid" is also used in the more restricted sense as hominins or "humans and relatives of humans closer than chimpanzees".[2] In this usage, all hominid species other than Homo sapiens are extinct.
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Reply Wed 21 Nov, 2012 09:36 am
@oristarA,
No.


It seems that you're running into trouble with your phrase breaks.


There is evidence that chimpanzees and other great apes can recognize themselves in mirrors.


The purpose of the research was to determine if cotton-top tamarins can recognize themselves in mirrors. Hauser claimed they could. Gallup found that reassessment of Hauser's tapes and coding did not support Hauser's conclustion.


Gallup's conclusion was that cotton-top tamarins's behaviour was not the behaviour used as evidence that great apes, including chimpanzees, are able to recognize themselves in mirrors.


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Cotton-top tamarins are referred to as monkeys.

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Their criticism of Hauser's paper stated that the coding criteria were described in insufficient detail to code the monkeys' behavior
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