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Hamas terroists getting pounded

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 24 Nov, 2012 12:52 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:
JTT wrote:
Yeah, declaring war on a tiny, defenceless country when you've been given a gigantic arsenal from the biggest group of terrorists/war criminals on the planet isn't "cowardly and terroristic".


of course it is,


Nonsense. Being well armed does not mean you don't have the right to defend yourself when people try to murder you.



djjd62 wrote:
plus others might actually come to the palastinians defense and give the israelis the ass kicking they've deserved for the last 50 years


Israel does not deserve to be defeated. They deserve to have people stop attacking them.

And if someone intervened to prevent Israel from defending themselves from Palestinian aggression, the US would deploy our conventional forces to destroy whoever was behind that intervention.

In the event that the US failed to stop the intervention, a few tactical nukes on Israel's part would solve the problem.

At the worst, the US would have to launch a huge barrage of thermonuclear warheads at all the population centers of whatever nation was interfering with Israel, but I doubt it would come to that. Chances are that US conventional intervention would suffice. And if not, Israeli tactical nukes would certainly be enough.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 24 Nov, 2012 12:55 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:
Whats the difference wether the rockets are land based or air based? Both are instruments of terror.


No. It would only be an instrument of terror if civilians were targeted.



RABEL222 wrote:
And if one would bother to check a hell of a lot more innocent Palistianians than Isrelies have been terrorized to death.


Wrong. Zero Palestinians have been killed by an act of Israeli terrorism.



RABEL222 wrote:
But of course the pals arent really human are they?


Well, Palestinians are certainly evil. Not sure if I'd go so far as to call them non-human.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 24 Nov, 2012 12:59 pm
@oralloy,
I am curious about this claim.

Was the guy who killed Yitzhak Rabin a terrorist?
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 24 Nov, 2012 01:04 pm
@contrex,
contrex wrote:
H2O MAN wrote:
Hamas terrorists drag racing


A traitor getting what he deserved.


Just what I'd expect from a scumbag who supports sending innocent people to prison.

"Thinking that Palestinians should make peace instead of trying to murder children" is not treason, and certainly is not deserving of such brutality.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 24 Nov, 2012 01:07 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
I am curious about this claim.

Was the guy who killed Yitzhak Rabin a terrorist?


No. Terrorists target civilians.
djjd62
 
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Reply Sat 24 Nov, 2012 01:16 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
djjd62 wrote:
H2O MAN wrote:
I expect you're on the side of the terrorists...


which ones, the palstinian or the israeli?


No such Israeli terrorists.

When did you stop beating your wife?


what sort of moron gets married
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JTT
 
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Reply Sat 24 Nov, 2012 01:28 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Terrorists target civilians.


Your understanding of virtually everything is dismal at best, Oralboy. Such is the result of a semen addled brain.

Quote:
Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives” (28 C.F.R. Section 0.85).


That is a description that perfectly defines the actions of the US, on a daily basis, since its, what else, terrorist inception.

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RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 24 Nov, 2012 02:15 pm
@oralloy,
You idiot, Isralie rockets killed Palistinian school children who were certainly not terrorist. Your denial shows you too be an Isralie apologist who cannot be believed.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 24 Nov, 2012 03:05 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
Your denial shows you too be an Isralie apologist who cannot be believed.


Cut him a little slack, will ya, Rabel. After all he is American and as you well know, the vast majority of are apologists for their own terrorists and war criminals.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 24 Nov, 2012 08:11 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:
You idiot, Isralie rockets killed Palistinian school children who were certainly not terrorist.


Spare me the Palestinian wailing about fake "dead children". I've heard it all before, and I know better.



RABEL222 wrote:
Your denial shows you too be an Isralie apologist who cannot be believed.


Your refusal to believe the truth does not alter the fact that truth is reality.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 24 Nov, 2012 08:46 pm
@oralloy,
Voniati: In a recent interview with LBC, you said that the policies of Hamas are more conducive to peace than the US’s or Israel’s.

Chomsky: Oh yes, that’s clear.

Voniati: Also, that the policies of Hamas are closer to international consensus on a political peaceful settlement than those of Israel and the US. Can you explain your stance?

Chomsky: Well for several years Hamas has been very clear and explicit, repeatedly, that they favor a two state settlement on the international border. They said they would not recognize Israel but they would accept a two state settlement and a prolonged truce, maybe decades, maybe 50 years. Now, that’s not exactly the international consensus but it’s pretty close to it. On the other hand, the United States and Israel flatly reject it. They reject it in deeds, that’s why they are building all the construction development activities in the West Bank, not only in violation of international laws, US and Israel know that the illegal constructions are designed explicitly to convert the West Bank into what the architect of the policy, Arial Sharon, called bantustan. Israel takes over what it wants, break up Palestine into unviable fragments. That’s undermining a political settlement. So in deeds, yes of course they are undermining it, but also in words: that goes back to 1976 when the US vetoed the Security Council resolution put forward by the arab states which called for a two state settlement and it goes around until today. In December, last December, at the meetings of the UN’s General Assembly there were many resolutions passed. One of them was a resolution calling for recognition of the right of self-determination of the Palestinian people. It didn’t call for a state, just the right of self-determination. It passed with 173 to 5. The 5 were the US, Israel and a few small pacific islands. Of course that can’t be reported in the US. So they are rejecting it even in words, as well as –more significantly- in acts. On the other hand, Hamas comes pretty close to accepting it. Now, the demand which Obama repeated on Hamas is that they must meet three conditions: they must recognize Israel’s right to exist, they must renounce violence and they must accept past agreements, and in particular the Road Map. Well, what about the US and Israel? I mean, obviously they don’t renounce violence, they reject the Road Map – technically they accepted it but Israel immediately entered 14 reservations (which weren’t reported here) which completely eliminated its content, and the US went along. So the US and Israel completely violate those two conditions, and of course they violate the first, they don’t recognize Palestine. So sure, there’s a lot to criticize about Hamas, but on these matters they seem to be much closer to –not only international opinion- but even to a just settlement than the US and Israel are.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 24 Nov, 2012 08:51 pm
@oralloy,
Absolutely nothing in this posting of yours, Oralboy, save for some smatterings of roll off your chin dried jism. But that's always the case and it only gets worse, the smatterings of dried jism, that is, when you stamp your feet.

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Israel is a Terrorist State by Definition: Chomsky

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article22067.htm

Voniati: On the other hand, Hamas has been accused of using human shields to hide and protect itself. Israel insists that the war was a matter of defense. Is Hamas a terrorist organization, as it is accused to be? Is Israel a terrorist state?

Chomsky: Well, Hamas is accused of using human shields, rightly or wrongly. But we know that Israel does it all the time. Is Israel a terrorist state? Well yes according to official definitions. I mean, one of the main things holding up cease fire right now is that Israel insists that it will not allow a cease fire until Hamas returns a captured Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit - he’s very famous in the West everybody knows he was captured. Well, one day before Gilad Shalit was captured, Israeli forces went into Gaza City and kidnapped two Palestinian civilians (the Muamar Brothers) and brought them across the border to Israel in violation of international law and hid them somewhere in the huge Israeli prisons. Nobody knows what happened to them since. I mean, kidnapping civilians is a much worse crime than capturing a soldier of an attacking army. And furthermore this has been regular Israeli practice for decades. They’ve been kidnapping civilians in Lebanon or on the high seas…They take them to Israel, put them into prisons, sometimes keeping them as hostages for long periods. So you know, if the capturing of Gilad Shalit is a terrorist act, well, then israel’s regular practice supported by the US is incomparably worse. And that’s quite apart from repeated aggression and other crimes. I don’t like Hamas by any means, there is plenty to criticize about them, but if you compare their actions with US and Israel, they are minor criminals.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 24 Nov, 2012 09:58 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Voniati: In a recent interview with LBC, you said that the policies of Hamas are more conducive to peace than the US’s or Israel’s.

Chomsky: Oh yes, that’s clear.


So that Chomsky clown is an anti-Semite and a supporter of terrorism, as well as a kook who got busted for lying about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.....



JTT wrote:
They reject it in deeds, that’s why they are building all the construction development activities in the West Bank, not only in violation of international laws, US and Israel know that the illegal constructions are designed explicitly to convert the West Bank into what the architect of the policy, Arial Sharon, called bantustan. Israel takes over what it wants, break up Palestine into unviable fragments. That’s undermining a political settlement. So in deeds, yes of course they are undermining it, but also in words: that goes back to 1976 when the US vetoed the Security Council resolution put forward by the arab states which called for a two state settlement and it goes around until today. In December, last December, at the meetings of the UN’s General Assembly there were many resolutions passed. One of them was a resolution calling for recognition of the right of self-determination of the Palestinian people. It didn’t call for a state, just the right of self-determination. It passed with 173 to 5. The 5 were the US, Israel and a few small pacific islands. Of course that can’t be reported in the US. So they are rejecting it even in words, as well as –more significantly- in acts. On the other hand, Hamas comes pretty close to accepting it. Now, the demand which Obama repeated on Hamas is that they must meet three conditions: they must recognize Israel’s right to exist, they must renounce violence and they must accept past agreements, and in particular the Road Map. Well, what about the US and Israel? I mean, obviously they don’t renounce violence, they reject the Road Map – technically they accepted it but Israel immediately entered 14 reservations (which weren’t reported here) which completely eliminated its content, and the US went along. So the US and Israel completely violate those two conditions, and of course they violate the first, they don’t recognize Palestine.


That Chomsky kook can't even keep his own lies straight.

The Roadmap For Peace calls for settlement construction to be halted only as part of the negotiating process.

Since the Palestinians are refusing to negotiate, what business does he have whining about the continuing expansion of settlements?


And his "unviable fragments" babbling was also nonsense. Ehud Barak offered them the West Bank in one contiguous block.

And at the worst, Israel will break the Palestinian West Bank into northern and southern halves when they wall off Jerusalem. That will still allow for a viable Palestinian state.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 24 Nov, 2012 09:59 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Absolutely nothing in this posting of yours, Oralboy, save for some smatterings of roll off your chin dried jism. But that's always the case and it only gets worse, the smatterings of dried jism, that is, when you stamp your feet.


JTT, stop being a creep.



JTT wrote:
Israel is a Terrorist State by Definition: Chomsky


Chomsky shouldn't run around falsely accusing his betters of his own terrorism.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 24 Nov, 2012 10:14 pm
@oralloy,
Still nothing, Oralboy.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2012 09:15 am

Hezbollah Warns Rockets Would
Rain Down on Tel Aviv in Future War

http://a57.foxnews.com/www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/0/0/1125_hezbollah397_20121125_091749.jpg

Israel needs to beat these fools like it was WWII.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 25 Nov, 2012 12:00 pm
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