Cycloptichorn
 
  2  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:32 am
@JPB,
Loving every moment of this. It generally takes a while for people to completely bottom out, apparently it takes a whole for parties as well...

Cycloptichorn
H2O MAN
 
  0  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:42 am
@Cycloptichorn,


Obama is not going to agree with anything that comes from the other side of the isle.

Obama is not interested in doing anything that will reverse this countries economic death spiral.
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H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:55 am
@Cycloptichorn,


The republicans need to offer a tax cut for all Americans and let the president deal with it.
parados
 
  2  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 12:00 pm
@H2O MAN,
So because we are running deficits the GOP should cut taxes and nothing else.
Good plan Spurt. Do you propose people drowning go into deeper water?
H2O MAN
 
  0  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 12:37 pm
@parados,


Will Obama ever come up with a plan of his own?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 12:45 pm
@H2O MAN,
What an idiot; all Obama has done is make offers that the GOP continues to refuse. There's no cure f........
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 01:09 pm
@cicerone imposter,


You got it right, Obama is an idiot.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 01:37 pm
@H2O MAN,
You're the idiot; you can't even "see" that you're the one my response was for.

[quote]@H2O MAN,
What an idiot; all Obama has done is make offers that the GOP continues to refuse. There's no cure f........[/quote]
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 02:08 pm
@cicerone imposter,


CI, don't reinforce your idiocy... too late.
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H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 02:16 pm
@cicerone imposter,


The spending problem in this country has been exacerbated by Obamacare.

For the good of the country Obama should make Obamacare go away... kill it with fire.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 02:19 pm
@H2O MAN,
Here's another subject in which you are too ignorant to understand. Obamacare is the brother of Romney's MA universal health care.

DUH! Too stupid and ignorant to understand anything of import.
H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 02:25 pm
@cicerone imposter,


No, Obamacare is the evil, sick, grossly obese, mentally ill, totally
illogical, retarded, suicidal, red headed step child of the Romney plan.

Obamacare should be put down.
joefromchicago
 
  3  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 04:39 pm
@joefromchicago,
We should keep in mind that the expiration of the Bush tax cuts and the sequester are two entirely different things, and are only linked because the tax cuts expire at the same time that the sequester takes effect. The tax cuts are part of the bargain because Democrats don't want the large entitlement cuts in the sequester, while Republicans expect concessions on the tax cuts as the price for easing up on the entitlement cuts.

But the sequester was designed to be unpalatable to both sides -- Democrats didn't like the entitlement cuts, while Republicans didn't like the defense cuts. If it weren't for the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, the two sides would be negotiating solely over the sequester. Indeed, that was the whole point of the sequester. Throwing the tax cuts into the mix simply gave the GOP leverage on an issue over which it shouldn't have had any leverage at all. Now the GOP can wring concessions from the Democrats on taxes by threatening to scuttle any compromise on the sequester -- even though, as explained before, those two things aren't connected (the debt ceiling, meanwhile, isn't connected to anything, including reality), and even though a failure to reach a deal on the sequester should be just as painful to the GOP as to the Democrats.

But the bigger picture is this: the fact that everyone is talking about a deficit deal is a huge concession to the GOP. Realistically, nobody should be concerned about the deficit at all -- not when creditors are effectively paying the US to lend it money. That we have even gotten to the point of talking seriously about deficit reduction in the midst of a very tentative recovery from a worldwide recession is a Republican victory, and the fact that Obama and the Democrats don't seem to realize that certainly does them no credit.
JPB
 
  1  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 04:56 pm
@joefromchicago,
I only heard parts of Obama's press conference but it sounds like he's proposed a small bargain that kicks the can down the road. Did I catch that right?
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 05:45 pm
@JPB,
Obama still thinks he can "negotiate" with the GOP. What world does he live in?

From Yahoo News.
Quote:
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama says he is "ready and willing" to get a big package done to deal with the "fiscal cliff" and says there's no reason not to protect middle-class Americans from tax increases.
Obama says he spoke Friday with House Speaker John Boehner and met with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. He says Congress should pass a plan to extend tax breaks for the middle class and extend unemployment benefits.
Obama says no one can get 100 percent of what they want and there are "real consequences" to how they deal with the across-the-board tax increases and steep spending cuts scheduled to kick in Jan. 1. Economists fear the combination could deliver a blow to the U.S. economy.
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reasoning logic
 
  0  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 05:53 pm
@H2O MAN,
You do know what happens to people who listen to fox news to much?
They end up like one of these guys.

H2O MAN
 
  1  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 06:27 pm
@reasoning logic,
No... I haven't watched FOX in years, please share your story of what happened to you. We're listening
reasoning logic
 
  1  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 06:31 pm
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
No... I haven't watched FOX in years,


Do you listen to talk radio?
H2O MAN
 
  1  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 06:45 pm
@reasoning logic,
NPR and you?
reasoning logic
 
  1  
Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2012 06:52 pm
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
NPR and you?


Are you suggesting that you got your education from NPR? I listen to all talk radio. NPR, Rush, Shawn, Glen, Neil and Herman.
 

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