Who do you want to vote for in 2016?

@Finn dAbuzz,

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The question that remains however (and which folks on the Left seem to want to avoid at all costs) ...

You must be brain dead, Finn. Considering all the incredibly stupid things that you routinely say here at A2K, it's a huge mystery how you can even show your face.

"folks on the Left seem to want to avoid at all costs", dog, but you are a hypocritical asshole!

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Bombs Over Cambodia

New information reveals that Cambodia was bombed far more heavily than previously believed

BY TAYLOR OWEN AND BEN KIERNAN · MAPPING BY TAYLOR OWEN
HISTORY · FROM THE OCTOBER 2006 MAGAZINE

IN THE FALL OF 2000, twenty-five years after the end of the war in Indochina, Bill Clinton became the first US president since Richard Nixon to visit Vietnam. While media coverage of the trip was dominated by talk of some two thousand US soldiers still classified as missing in action, a small act of great historical importance went almost unnoticed. As a humanitarian gesture, Clinton released extensive Air Force data on all American bombings of Indochina between 1964 and 1975. Recorded using a groundbreaking IBM-designed system, the database provided extensive information on sorties conducted over Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia.

Clinton’s gift was intended to assist in the search for unexploded ordnance left behind during the carpet bombing of the region. Littering the countryside, often submerged under farmland, this ordnance remains a significant humanitarian concern. It has maimed and killed farmers, and rendered valuable land all but unusable. Development and demining organizations have put the Air Force data to good use over the past six years, but have done so without noting its full implications, which turn out to be staggering.

http://walrusmagazine.com/articles/2006.10-history-bombing-cambodia/

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Well then it's only been 3 days but the 2016 campaign has started already. Republican Florida Senator Marco Rubio is going to Iowa for a birthday fundraiser for Governor Terry Branstad.

It's never too early to pander and gain recognition in Iowa, which has catapulted previous caucus winners Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum to... um... thankfully nowhere. Cool

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I would rather not think about it untill 6 mo before the next fed election.

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@RABEL222,

It's too early for almost everything that has to do with the next election.

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@Green Witch,

Yes, we can agree to disagree.

There's no point in discussing the subject if you can honestly equate "people like Trump, Jack Welch and the current Sam Walton clan" with a bloody-handed murderer of truly catastrophic proportions.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

But it's okay for David to pair Obama with Mao?

And yes, I think all those people would be sucking up together. Not because my three named Americans are murderers, but because they would be perfectly happy exploiting people and resources to enrich their own personal coffers.

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@Green Witch,

No it's not OK.

Doesn't anyone read what is actually written in these posts?

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Any attempt to cast him as a captialist CEO is as ludicrous as the comparison against which you argue.

And again, your comparison is just as ludicrous.

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@jcboy,

I was in Iowa for a few weeks in the fifties, as I mentioned before here, at seventeen, as a script girl, so called because my parents meant to keep me out of the convent, so I got to go along on the stockyards filming.

That worked better than they imagined as I fell hook line and sinker for a 34 year old film editor. He's even on wiki, last I looked, well regarded. I'll always appreciate him, he woke me up to wit in real life, Tony de Zarraga.
I liked Iowa.

I've resented the writer, Bryson, dumping all over Iowa.

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@ossobuco,

Swimpy is from Iowa.

So there! Take that!

I take it that Iowa is a figment in some minds.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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There's no point in discussing the subject if you can honestly equate "people like Trump, Jack Welch and the current Sam Walton clan" with a bloody-handed murderer of truly catastrophic proportions.

The only difference between those people and any "bloody-handed murderer of truly catastrophic proportions" is that they haven't had the chance to become a US president which would, of course, make any one of them who did so a "bloody-handed murderer of truly catastrophic proportions".

Care to do a count, Finn, of the blood that is on the hands of the presidents from Truman to Obama. They make up a cast of the most bloody-handed murderers of truly catastrophic proportions that has ever walked the Earth.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Ahhh. I admit I did forget your exact comment. My apologies. I pop in and out of here for various periods of time with a lot happening in between.

Although, I still think a dictator, any dictator, has a lot in common with a capitalist CEO and thus the comparison is not totally ludicrous.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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There's no point in discussing the subject if you can honestly equate "people like Trump, Jack Welch and the current Sam Walton clan" with a bloody-handed murderer of truly catastrophic proportions.

I think that you have seriously misread GW's argument but I have to note that she later caved completely, when she was in fact correct.

GW wasn't envisioning any of these corporate folk being in the same political position that Mao was so your response [I use that word lightly] was apples and oranges.

As has been noted, any one of those Americans, has within, everything needed to make them a "bloody-handed murderer of truly catastrophic proportions". History informs us that it is innate to the US system so I can't imagine how they could escape that.

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We will have to agree to disagree on Mao's behavior. He had far more incommon[sic] with a modern capitalist than a modern socialist.

I'd say that this is completely true. Any of the socialist governments around the world seem to have a damn good record of encouraging economic growth within their own countries without having to resort to murdering millions of innocents and stealing their wealth.

A small aside: it would be very interesting to see a study done of just how much wealth the US has stolen from other countries. Would you, honest guy that you are, like to undertake such a study, Finnias?

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Plenty of CEOs grab up all the resources and wealth they can and ignore any victims in the processes. Sharing and social equality is not on the agenda. I guarantee if Mao was alive to today he would be best friends with people like Trump, Jack Welch, and the current Sam Walton clan.

That's certainly true of Jack Welch.

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GE’s Jack Welch Knows About Cooking the Books

Jack Welch Twitter Verified
‏@jack_welch
Unbelievable jobs numbers..these Chicago guys will do anything..can't debate so change numbers

Of all the people who have something to say about the BLS, none is more unintentionally ironic than former GE CEO Jack Welch.

I have long stated that Jack welch was one of the luckier, more wildly over-compensated CEOs around. He became CEO of General Electric in 1981, just before an 18 year bull market in big cap stocks began. he left in 2001, just as the market implosion was getting rolling.

GE’s revenues grew 385% under his watch, but the company’s market cap grew 4000%. How did that happen? GE increased earnings over the years, and with stunning regularity, managed a quarterly profit beat.

Indeed, it was too regular: After the 2000 crash, we learned of earnings manipulation and accounting shenanigans. The criticism was GE Capital acted as an opaque leveraged hedge fund that always be counted on to help GE beat by a penny. (GE eventually had to settle accounting fraud charges with the SEC).

So if anyone knows a thing or two about cooking the books, its GE’s Jack Welch. Want even more proof? Have a look at this chart of Welch’s earnings versus his successor, Jeff Immelt:

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/10/ges-jack-welch-on-bls-book-cooking/

Finn, you have been caught out so many times lying, fabricating, posting confused drivel, "mendacitating" constantly - you are either too stupid to see what a fool you are, or you are a fool shill, the Repugs/conservatives have those in spades.

Why on earth GW would let you buffalo her is beyond me. But hey, these Repug fool shills do work sometimes. Look at Rush Limppaw, ...

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@JTT,

Finn merely pointed out to me that he thought David's comparison of Mao and Obama was ludicrous after I accused him of not doing so. Other than that, I stated I thought a comparison between a dictator and capitalist CEO was not unreasonable. Why you see me doing a total surrender is only because you enjoy doing your political Drama Queen act. Really, I can't imagine what it must be like to be you and to be tortured so about the past deeds (both real or imagined) of nations and men.

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@Green Witch,

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to be tortured so about the past deeds (both real or imagined) of nations and men.

The go to phony excuse for those unwilling, and unable to face the truth, GW. You've had ample opportunity to show that anything I've posted is imagined but you really are much too frightened to go there.

Whatever happened to 'ignore'? You know you children throw that around like a sandbox taunt.

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@JTT,

I do have you on ignore, but I was raised with a grandmother who drilled it in to me to be polite. It's terrible, I know. I felt you might be addressing me directly so I quickly looked in order not to be overly rude. No regrets. I also feel no need to answer your typical gerbil wheel rant, so goodnight.

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@Green Witch,

Your willingness to apologize is appreciated.

Your walk-back on the comparison is noted.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

The Republicans seem to have run out of candidates who aren't squinty eyed and barking mad. Why not look elsewhere? The mayor of London Boris Johnson was actually born in America, admittedly he's barking mad, but people like him.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

I was just giving each of us our due.

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@Green Witch,

Now that christians are realizing that their push for social issues has failed big time, will they change their tune back to Jesus' love in 2016? You know, "love thy neighbor as thyself" stuff. LOL

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@Green Witch,

She should have drilled some honesty, a sense of responsibility and more focus while she was at it, GW.

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