Waco Parents Stand Up For Bigotry!

No, I'm saying that they have no right to condemn their daughters to the same ignorance they embrace.

I have a feeling this goes far beyond planned parenthood. The fact is, The Girl Scouts have become a left wing liberal organization over the years and some people are fed up with it.

POrtal, I rarely disagree with you, but I do here. Many girls (and boys) are sexually active long before they turn 18. The best way to prevent teen pregnancies and STDs is to educate people about safer and unsafe sexual practices. One cannot count on such things being taught at home, especially in homes like the one's belonging to the outraged biddys-in-training in Texas. Would you rather "family values" were conserved, with the associated pregnancies and STDs, or that he fallacy of "conservative morals" be sacrificed for the higher good of the girls? I would rather see the latter.

POrtal, I rarely disagree with you, but I do here. Many girls (and boys) are sexually active long before they turn 18. The best way to prevent teen pregnancies and STDs is to educate people about safer and unsafe sexual practices. One cannot count on such things being taught at home, especially in homes like the one's belonging to the outraged biddys-in-training in Texas. Would you rather "family values" were conserved, with the associated pregnancies and STDs, or that he fallacy of "conservative morals" be sacrificed for the higher good of the girls? I would rather see the latter.

hobitbob wrote:

POrtal, I rarely disagree with you, but I do here. Many girls (and boys) are sexually active long before they turn 18. The best way to prevent teen pregnancies and STDs is to educate people about safer and unsafe sexual practices. One cannot count on such things being taught at home, especially in homes like the one's belonging to the outraged biddys-in-training in Texas. Would you rather "family values" were conserved, with the associated pregnancies and STDs, or that he fallacy of "conservative morals" be sacrificed for the higher good of the girls? I would rather see the latter.

The problem is that you are equating teaching and encouraging abstinence in your children with not teaching them anything but. (One of those long standing Liberal myths that I hate so much)

Most Conservatives believe in teaching their children ALL the facts about abortion, pre marital sex, sexually transmitted diseases, etc. Yet at the same time, we teach our children that that we consider abortion to be immoral.
That we consider pre marital sex to be wrong and abstinence is a better alternative.
We teach them that avoiding these pitfalls can help keep one safe from STD's.

The problem is that you seem to think that your way of raising children is the only 'right' way and the only one with validity and that we are somehow ignorant or bigoted when we raise our children with the values we cherish.

We, on the other hand, believe that you are misguided in encouraging your children run sexually rampant and yet we don't interfere with your raising of your children.

But please don't think that we want to allow our children to hang out with and learn by example, the promiscuity and lack of values that you wish to imprint on your children.

I don't think there's anything wrong with being ignorant up to a certain age. Young girls (and boys too of course) are ignorant of almost everything in this world.

P.S. - not to sound like a fool, but what is "Planned Parenthood?" Is it just a sex education organization?

Fedral wrote:

hobitbob wrote:

POrtal, I rarely disagree with you, but I do here. Many girls (and boys) are sexually active long before they turn 18. The best way to prevent teen pregnancies and STDs is to educate people about safer and unsafe sexual practices. One cannot count on such things being taught at home, especially in homes like the one's belonging to the outraged biddys-in-training in Texas. Would you rather "family values" were conserved, with the associated pregnancies and STDs, or that he fallacy of "conservative morals" be sacrificed for the higher good of the girls? I would rather see the latter.

The problem is that you are equating teaching and encouraging abstinence in your children with not teaching them anything but. (One of those long standing Liberal myths that I hate so much)

Most Conservatives believe in teaching their children ALL the facts about abortion, pre marital sex, sexually transmitted diseases, etc. Yet at the same time, we teach our children that that we consider abortion to be immoral.
That we consider pre marital sex to be wrong and abstinence is a better alternative.
We teach them that avoiding these pitfalls can help keep one safe from STD's.

The problem is that you seem to think that your way of raising children is the only 'right' way and the only one with validity and that we are somehow ignorant or bigoted when we raise our children with the values we cherish.

We, on the other hand, believe that you are misguided in encouraging your children run sexually rampant and yet we don't interfere with your raising of your children.

But please don't think that we want to allow our children to hang out with and learn by example, the promiscuity and lack of values that you wish to imprint on your children.

Fedral - I agree with you that we should not have the option to interfere with each others homes! I agree with you on that point tenfold, it is a matter of individual liberty.

What I don't like is that you think sex before marriage automatically implies a lack of values. I am not religious and have sex before marriage, but I have very high and strict moral values. I think it is more of a question of what your values are. Clearly, they are different for many indiviudals. But having values (even opposing ones) is different, and I think more respectable, than not having any values or ideas.

I think there is nothing wrong with not being a virgin, as long as you have sex safely (getting tested, using birth control) and respectfully (someone you love and care about, who loves and cares about you.)

I knew I was exposing my ignorance.

Most Conservatives believe in teaching their children ALL the facts about abortion, pre marital sex, sexually transmitted diseases, etc. Yet at the same time, we teach our children that that we consider abortion to be immoral.

I am against abortion but it is the law of the land and the girl scouts have a right to promote it if they feel it is right.