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I know where I was fifty years ago

 
 
Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2012 07:53 pm
On a destroyer in Long Beach, CA, wondering if we were going to war with the Soviet Union. Smile

Cuban missile crisis: The other, secret one
By Joe Matthews

Contrary to popular belief, the Cuban missile crisis did not end with the agreement between the US and Soviet Union in October, 1962. Unknown to the US at the time, there were 100 other nuclear weapons also in the hands of Cuba, sparking a frantic - and ingenious - Russian mission to recover them.

In November 2011, aware that the 50th anniversary of the most dangerous few weeks in history was less than a year away, my Russian colleague Pasha Shilov and I came across several new accounts that changed our perspective on the Cuban missile crisis and how much we thought we knew about it.

Growing up in Berkshire, England, through the nuclear paranoia of the 1980s, with Ronald Reagan's Cruise and Pershing missiles stationed only 30 miles away from my family home, I was inculcated with a keen awareness of Cold War brinkmanship.

Pasha grew up in Moscow and described how it was from the Soviet point of view - equally frightening by his account.

But what we've now learned about the chilling events of October and November 1962 has put our own experiences into perspective - and maybe given rise to a few more grey hairs along the way.

Cuban missile crisis ignites when, fearing a US invasion, Castro agrees to allow the USSR to deploy nuclear missiles on the island
The crisis was subsequently resolved when the USSR agreed to remove the missiles in return for the withdrawal of US nuclear missiles from Turkey

Our investigations took us to St Petersburg and the Soviet Submariners Veterans' Society via the National Security Archive in Washington DC, where Svetlana Savranskaya, the director of the Russian archives, told us an incredible story.

There had been a second secret missile crisis that continued the danger of a catastrophic nuclear war until the end of November 1962.

This extended the known missile crisis well beyond the weekend of 27-28 October, the time that had always been thought of as the moment the danger finally lifted with the deal between Kennedy and Khrushchev to withdraw the Soviet missiles in exchange for a US promise not to invade Cuba.

The secret missile crisis came about through an unnerving mix of Soviet duplicity, American intelligence failures and the mercurial temperament of Fidel Castro.

The Cuban leader, cut out of the main negotiations between the superpowers over the fate of the long range Soviet missiles stationed in Cuba, began to cease cooperation with Moscow.

Fearing that Castro's hurt pride and widespread Cuban indignation over the concessions Khrushchev had made to Kennedy, might lead to a breakdown of the agreement between the superpowers, the Soviet leader concocted a plan to give Castro a consolation prize.

The prize was an offer to give Cuba more than 100 tactical nuclear weapons that had been shipped to Cuba along with the long-range missiles, but which crucially had passed completely under the radar of US intelligence.

Khrushchev concluded that because the Americans hadn't listed the missiles on their list of demands, the Soviet Union's interests would be well served by keeping them in Cuba.

Kremlin number two, Anastas Mikoyan, was charged with making the trip to Havana, principally to calm Castro down and make him what seemed like an offer he couldn't refuse.

Mikoyan was forced to use the dark arts of diplomacy to convince Castroā€¯

Mikoyan, whose wife was seriously ill, took the assignment knowing that the future of relations between Cuba and the Soviet Union were on the line. Shortly after arriving in Cuba, Mikoyan received word that his wife had died, but despite this, he pledged to stay in Cuba and complete negotiations with Castro.

In the weeks that followed, Mikoyan kept the detail of the missile transfer to himself while he witnessed the mood swings and paranoia of the Cuban leader convinced that Moscow had sold Cuba's defence down the river.

Castro particularly objected to the constant flights over Cuba by American surveillance aircraft and, as Mikoyan learned to his horror, ordered Cuban anti-aircraft gunners to fire on them.

Knowing how delicate the state of relations were between the US and Russia after the worst crisis since World War II, US forces around the world remained on Defcon 2, one short of global nuclear war until 20 November.

Mikoyan came to a personal decision that under no circumstances should Castro and his military be given control of weapons with an explosive force equal to 100 Hiroshima-sized bombs.

He then extricated Moscow from a seemingly intractable situation which risked blowing the entire crisis back up in the faces of Kennedy and Khrushchev.


Anastas Mikoyan (far right, in 1938) took the all-important mission
On 22 November 1962, during a tense, four-hour meeting, Mikoyan was forced to use the dark arts of diplomacy to convince Castro that despite Moscow's best intentions, it would be in breach of an unpublished Soviet law (which didn't actually exist) to transfer the missiles permanently into Cuban hands and provide them with an independent nuclear deterrent.

Finally after Mikoyan's trump card, Castro was forced to give way and - much to the relief of Khrushchev and the whole Soviet government - the tactical nuclear weapons were finally crated and returned by sea back to the Soviet Union during December 1962.

This story has illuminated a chapter in history that has been partially closed for the past 50 years.

But it leaves us with a great respect for Mikoyan and his ability to judge and eventually contain an extremely dangerous situation which could have affected many millions of people.

Joe Matthews is a producer for Wild Iris TV, which has made a short film about the "secret" Cuban missile crisis
 
rosborne979
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2012 08:02 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
I know where I was fifty years ago
Me too, I was one year old, living in Alabama with my parents.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2012 08:03 pm
@edgarblythe,
I remember being afraid.

But mostly I was at work.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2012 08:06 pm
All leaves and liberty were canceled. We didn't know what to expect.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2012 08:20 pm
@edgarblythe,
I didn't exist 50 years ago ... unless reincarnation is really a real thing then I can't tell you where I was 50 years ago because I just don't know then. Razz

SO, I guess thanks are due for you and your part in this mess not turning into the be all and end all for humanity. Thanks Edgar. Smile If you didn't play your part, I and a few other several tens or hundreds of millions or so others just might not be here today.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2012 08:22 pm
@tsarstepan,
Ours was not to question why.
mckenzie
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2012 10:18 pm
@edgarblythe,
Oh, my, that brings back memories. My best friend and I, as young children, knew enough to be frightened, and we tried to dig an air raid shelter in my back yard. We dug a good sized hole in the ground over the course of a couple of weeks before my dad filled it in.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2012 10:31 pm
@mckenzie,
I can picture it. It's a shame to scare little kids like that.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2012 11:20 pm
@edgarblythe,
All my people besides my father went cryza, I thought 50 years ago.

They were 're-activating' the cellar which had been an air-raid shelter during the war, food was stored there ...
The British 'occupying power' was doing one manoeuvre after the other... . And when the cars from the Russian military liaison mission were seen quite often in our town as well, everyone was sure that the next war would come soon ....
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mesquite
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2012 12:17 am
@edgarblythe,
I was a Bomb-Nav technician for B-52s at Barksdale AFB. Our readiness level went to DEFCON 2. We went to 12 hour shifts getting all the B52s combat ready.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2012 04:52 am
@mesquite,
I think it was a Tuesday morning and I was on a train to Philadelphia to attend art courses at the Academy. I used to get out of school to do this (I was like in 6th grade). I remember the talk about the Cubans and the missiles all day but had no idea wed be going to war
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2012 12:30 pm
With the atrocities of the Batista government fresh in my mind, I was an early supporter of Castro.

Batista was corrupt
-he had seized power in a coup so he was not considered legitimate by many
-he was seen as a puppet of the USA (which he was)
-Castro promised to rejuvenate Cuba and give her independence.
-Castro only announced himself as a Communist after the failed Bay of Pigs invasion.

Many people felt the same as I, until the missile crisis. But even after that, I do not hate Castro, particularly. I would like to see reconciliation, which I think would have the effect of loosening the Castro hold on Cuba. Certainly the citizens would benefit.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2012 12:39 pm
@edgarblythe,
We're near the same age, EdgarB, and I had the same progression re Castro.

Farmerman says the key time was on a Tuesday morning - I didn't remember that as clearly, just remember some intense hours worrying. I still lived with my parents and I remember worrying in the living room, probably at night. So, re my first answer, that I was at work is probably wrong, I was probably at the university in the morning, work after school.

I remember the exact place I was when I heard Kennedy was shot - a much clearer visual.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2012 12:53 pm
I have not met anyone who does not recall the day Kennedy died. I was working on a house bordering the Garner State Park and saw a newspaper headline on the way home - We had stopped at a tiny grocery store, where I bought a Dr Pepper.
Reyn
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2012 01:02 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:
I remember the exact place I was when I heard Kennedy was shot - a much clearer visual.

Yeah, I can remember that, too. Some things seem to be branded into the mind.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2012 01:22 pm
I took this from a site, but forgot to get the url.


CONVENTIONAL WISDOM: It was an intelligence coup for the CIA.

REALITY: Along with being a day late on the turnaround by Soviet ships, the CIA missed several key developments that would have helped Kennedy and his advisers navigate the crisis.

The CIA learned late in the game about the ballistic missiles' presence in Cuba, and they were already operational by the time Kennedy was informed of their existence.

The agency was also unaware of other, tactical nuclear missiles in Cuba that could have been deployed against a U.S. attack. The Soviets had even positioned nuclear-tipped missiles on a ridge above the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay in preparation for an invasion.

"They were going to obliterate the base," Kornbluh said.

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CONVENTIONAL WISDOM: The crisis lasted just 13 days.

REALITY: This myth has been perpetuated in part by the title of Robert F. Kennedy's posthumous memoir, "Thirteen Days," as well as the 2000 movie of the same name starring Kevin Costner.

Indeed it was 13 days from Oct. 16, when Kennedy was first told about the missiles, to Oct. 28, when the Soviets announced their withdrawal.

But the "October Crisis," as it is known in Cuba, dragged on for another tense month or so in what Kornbluh dubs the "November Extension," as Washington and Moscow haggled over details of exactly what weapons would be removed.

The Soviet Union also had problems dealing with Fidel Castro, according to a Soviet document made public this month by Svetlana Savranskaya, a Russia analyst for the National Security Archive.

Deputy Premier Anastas Mikoyan traveled to Cuba that Nov. 2 and spent 20 days in tense talks with the Cuban leader, who was angry the Soviets had reached a deal without consulting him. Castro lobbied hard but unsuccessfully to keep the tactical nuclear weapons that the Americans had not learned about.

____
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chai2
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2012 01:32 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

I have not met anyone who does not recall the day Kennedy died.


Strange that you should say this edgar.

I never thought much about false memories, until I realized that I had one.

I am convinced, to this day, that I was in school, and heard them announce over the PA system that President Kennedy was shot. I can remember looking up at the PA speaker on the wall, and looking at the clock next to it (although I could tell you what the time was). I remember wishing I could go home, this was important. I remember wearing my school uniform, and having the memory of my surroundings being what they would have been in 4th grade. I remember all of this, and more, and know this is what I was doing, thinking and feeling. I'm positive of all this.

In reality, I was not quite 5 years old, not even in kindergarden yet.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2012 02:03 pm
@chai2,
Well, yeah. Nothing universally happens the same for everyone.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2012 02:05 pm
@edgarblythe,
I mentioned in an email to an old Navy friend that my older brother died in 1969. He wrote back, confused. He remembered that I told him the brother died in 1963 or 64.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2012 02:29 pm
@edgarblythe,
a slightly lightening story, in a way. I was buying some flats as my boyfriend was short, at Leed's shoe store in Westwood. The radio over the counter was on. We were all transfixed, the checkers and us paying.

I walked up through campus and people didn't know yet, me with tears running and tears stopping, breathing, and tears running again, people looking at me strange. I don't remember where I was headed to, the then med building, I think.
By the time I got to wherever I was going, they knew.
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