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babsatamelia
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2003 01:43 am
You remind me of one of my sponsors, Bill
She used to put it to me like this:
(because I have quite a bit of trouble
understanding even simple things)
She would say - Barb, you got on the airplane
in Houston (for example)
which is like saying, you got sober -
xxx number of months ago.
Now, here you are, up in the air,
somewhere between Houston and SanDiego
Are you telling me that you would actually,
really, even consider thinking for a second
about jumping out of the plane??
You are already ON that plane.
You already made that decision.
Jumping is suicide.
I could sort of understand that.
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BillW
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2003 01:45 am
Thank goodness I don't know how to operate them funny doors! Cool
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Booman
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2003 01:48 am
BTW...HAPPY BIRTHDAY BABSATEMELIA!!!!! Exclamation Very Happy
...Isn't it good to listen to the wisdom of the aged?

Here's a little story for you....About twenty years ago, during a check-up, a doctor asked me if I did drugs, then he asked me which ones. I told him at the time I regularly did heroin,cocaine, and alcohol. He looked at me with concern, and said, "Son, that alcohol will kill you."
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Booman
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2003 01:53 am
To furthur the anology; didn't we feel stupid speeding towards the earth saying, "Now why the HELL, did I do that? Confused Sad Sad Evil or Very Mad Crying or Very sad
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babsatamelia
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2003 01:55 am
Ah Ha, Now I gotcha BillW!!
You are just like me -
You're a CONVINCED alcoholic
No other damned fool would
even THINK about the
damned door, not even
what it looks like
Laughing Laughing Laughing
Tis not MY birthday Bill
I was just congratulating Seaglass,
in case I don't get the chance tomorrow.
It sounds like they are planning a volcano AA party!
I'm so jealous, but what the heck, I live on
an island too... and in the event of a hurricane
I can get away lots faster than they can get off Hawaii
That was the one thing that felt really weird about
Hawaii, you knew that you had just flown for hours
and hours over nothing but the Pacific Ocean.
I kind of felt, I don't know... trapped maybe?
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babsatamelia
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2003 02:06 am
HeHeHeHe You REALLY do need help Boo!
But, I love ya anyhow
that is,
when you remember who I am!
After all, I am just so unique and
so important and all. Laughing Laughing
We have this guy who is a newcomer
who dies his hair red...
I can't get over how odd he looks, Shocked
but when he opens his mouth
his looks don't seem so strange
anymore, it is the way he pats himself
on the back - talks as if recovery is all over
done, past, cleaned up like a grease spot on
the garage floor. HA! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
Good God! Am I GRATEFUL when I leave a
meeting after listening to this guy. Laughing
I mean I know I got problems other than just
alcoholism, in fact whenever I read How It
Works, and I get to the part about how "some
of us have serious emotional and mental
yada yada yad" I always raise my hand while
reading that part :wink: I wouldn't want any
of the other folks who are as nuts as me
feeling lonely. Besides I remember what I
USED to think EVERY SINGLE TIME I read the
part that says "there are such unfortunates, they
seem to have been born that way" - for at least
2 years, I was so scared that was ME that they
were talking about me. So, raising my hand
during the "severe emotional and mental
disorders" is a breeze compared to the other
option. Laughing
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Booman
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2003 02:26 am
I know what you mean about that guy Babs, my sonser and I have our biggest laughs talking about the "cured" ones. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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babsatamelia
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2003 02:38 am
Yes, I can imagine that you share the same EXPANSIVE
feeling of common, sincere gratitude, while in the room
with one of the cured ones - who is not even a terrible 2
yet, but he is already cured. Good Grief!! Most wait till the
terrible twos, but this is one strange person...the hair Rolling Eyes
just blows me away though, WHY would any guy want to
have bottled red hair? Why not black, brown??
My middle daughter, for example, has gorgeous REAL blondish-red
hair (no freckles too) but this guy uses the obvious cheap wash in
hair color. SO GROSS! Now, I know it is beneath me to gossip...
so I am going to cease and desist. It is one of my defects that
apparently God doesn't want bad enough yet. Laughing Laughing
Can an alcoholic like me rationalize something to death, or what?
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Booman
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2003 05:01 pm
O-o-kay, since you don't like to gossip, ...we didn't hear it here. :wink:

BTW, you do know they're into purple, green, blue, etc., hair right? (shudder) Shocked
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2003 05:41 am
Seaglass--

22 Years! WOW! Conratulations and I hope the next 22 will be just as rewarding.
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babsatamelia
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2003 08:42 pm
YES SEAGLASS ROCKS!! CONGRATS HONEY!
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babsatamelia
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2003 08:51 pm
UH OH! THERE IS TROUBLE BREWING, THE RED
HEADED PERSON OF WHOM I SPOKE RECENTLY,
(ONLY A WEE BIT OF GOSSIP FOR WHICH I WAS
IMMEDIATELY REPENTANT AND AMENDING)
THIS RED HEADED PERSON HAS DECIDED THAT
HE WANTS TO HUG ME AFTER A MEETING.
NOW I HAVE A POLICY THAT I ONLY HUG MEN
WHOM I HAVE KNOWN FOR QUITE SOME TIME
FOR ALL THE OBVIOUS REASONS, THOUGH I
OCCASSIONALLY DO MAKE AN EXCEPTION SINCE
AN INDIVIDUAL ONCE IN AWHILE, IS JUST SUCH A
FRIGHTFUL MESS, AND I'M SO PURELY HAPPY
FOR HIM TO HAVE WANDERED IN THE DOORS.
LIKE THE ANCIENT EDDIE - HE'S BEEN THROUGH
SEVERAL MILLS, BEAT UP, BROKEN DOWN, ACTS
LIKE HE'S A WEE BIT RETARDED BUT WHEN HE
SPEAKS, WORDS OF WISDOM DROP FROM HIS
MOUTH LIKE LITTLE PEARLS. HE IS AWFUL TO LOOK
UPON, ANCIENT, HAIRY, UNKEMPT, DIRTY, AND
GOD ONLY KNOWS IF HE HAS A HOME.... BUT GOD
SPEAKS THRU EDDIE EVERY TIME I SEE HIM AT A
MEETING, AND I AM MORE THAN EVER AMAZED AT
THE MESSENGER.
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babsatamelia
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2003 08:56 pm
AND I FORGOT TO MENTION, GRATEFUL TO BE
HERE, TO BE ALIVE, TO BE HEARING WHAT
OLD EDDIE HAS TO SAY ... I AM SAD ON THIS
DAY, MY PLANS FOR MANY TRIPS TO THE
MOUNTAINS OVER THIS SUMMER MAY BE IN
DANGER DUE TO HEALTH PROBLEMS AND I
WAS SO LOOKING FORWARD TO BE GOING
ONCE AGAIN... I WILL HAVE ONE YEAR FREE
OF A HOSPITAL STAY IN MAY - BUT I DON'T
THINK I AM GOING TO MAKE IT TILL MAY.
IT LOOKS DANGEROUSLY LIKE I WILL BE IN
SURGERY WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH. OH, IF
ONLY THIS COULD TURN OUT TO BE NOTHING.
I WOULD BE SO, SO GRATEFUL.
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Booman
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2003 10:44 pm
God's not gonna' give you anymore than you can handle Babs..... Live that Serenity prayer.
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2003 07:55 pm
Amen![/i]
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 26 Mar, 2003 02:00 pm
Quote:
AA Thought for the Day
March 26, 2002

Great Reality

We finally saw that faith in some kind of God
was a part of our make-up,
just as much as the feeling we have for a friend.
Sometimes we had to search fearlessly,
but He was there.
He was as much a fact as we were.
We found the Great Reality deep down within us.
In the last analysis it is only there that He may be found.
It was so with us.


Reprinted from Alcoholics Anonymous, Page 55, with permission of A.A. World Services, Inc.


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Thought to Ponder....
God seldom becomes a reality
until God becomes a necessity.


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Recovery Related Acronym

G O D = Gift Of Desperation.


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A Member Shares...

Hi, I'm Tom, an alcoholic.

My thought today is that I am truly powerless over my life. I used to think that when I felt that way, I could drink myself into a new understanding, however, that never came. Until I turned my life over to my Higher Power I could not stop drinking, because I thought drinking was my solution. Today I am trying to control a situation and, because of AA, I know that I am not in control, but my Higher Power is. He gave me a great gift and that is sobriety. Because He gave me that gift I know and trust that he will continue to send gifts even when I can't see them through my human eyes. While it is difficult not to want to take control of this situation, only because of AA have I learned to trust in my Higher Power and know that He has a plan that will send the answers to me. I am so grateful for AA.
-Tom
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Wed 26 Mar, 2003 10:17 pm
BillW<

Page 55 of Alcoholics Anonymous is one of my favorites. Its message helped me define a personal Higher Power at a time when I thought such a power was nonsense.

I read the following:

" . . . deep down in every man, woman and child, is the fundamental idea of God. (Emphasis mine.) It may be obscured by calamity, by pomp, by worship of other things, but in some form or another, it is there. For faith in a Power greater than ourselves, and miraculous demonstrations of that power in human lives, are facts as old as man himself."

For me, there was no denial that God existed as a fundamental idea. From this thought -- and over many days one at a time -- I grew spiritually in the AA program. Had it not been for the message found on Page 55, I may have never continued in AA.

I had been denying for years the existence of a Higher Power. AA, I thought, tries to turn its members into Bible-thumpers. It won't get to me, I figured. I could not, however, deny that fundamental idea.

Deep down, that idea was within me. I just had to admit it. I had been powerless over the idea because I was a drunk. Once I eliminated alcohol, the idea seemed to surface on its own accord.
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2003 01:00 pm
Thanks williamhenry and well put!
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2003 01:05 pm
Went to a traditions meeting the other day for the first time in a long time - many, many years. Seems a meeting happens just for me, when I need it.

I have often expressed my rancor for my second wife in meetings and maybe even on these threads, somewhere. I met her in the program and we were together for just 4 months of marriage. This was a point of contention with me but proved that **** happens, even in the program. I didn't drink or drug during this time but needed and received lots of meetings and help from friends.

My ex was in and out of this program for over 20 years proving that, "Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path. Those who do not recover are people who will not completely give themselves to this simple program..."

My ex died on March the ninth from over ingestion of shine and valiums -

I know that she had many problems with herself and her program - the steps are for the individual. She however had no problem with AA. She kept trying, she was totally aligned with the Traditions, which is the part of the program for the group. Thanks to my higher power, I received a meeting that I need when I needed it.

I am in total peace with my ex, and my current wife of 6+ years is a God send. She has shown me what love and happiness really is.

I give my thanks now and always!
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2003 01:21 pm
BillW<

Regardless of any rancor you may have had towards your second wife, the cause of her death must have hit
you very hard.

I will be praying to my Higher Power that you continue to have a happy life with your current spouse.

Grieving the loss of your former spouse, however, is something you must allow yourself to do. In the process, you may realize that she has finally found the peace she sought in drugs and alcohol.

Thanks for sharing this sad story.
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