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Moody's expects to cut US credit rating minus a drop in debt/gdp ratio

 
 
Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2012 08:09 am
Anybody who thinks Bork Obunga shutting down all of our energy initiatives and conducting a war against our small business community doesn't have consequences should read this...

http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2012/09/11/moodys-expects-to-cut-us-rating-without-deal-to-lower-debtgdp-ratio/

 
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2012 09:24 pm
@gungasnake,
This is another example of why EVERYBODY in Congress must be m,ade accountable IF the unthinkeable happens. The mere fact that CDongress wont do anything "Until after the election" makes me feel that everyone who holds a seat in any finance committee and anyone who votes against a resolution, NEEDS TO GO.


PS

Your head is still up your ass if you think your pubbies areon your side .
gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2012 03:16 am
@farmerman,


I'll say it again, the thing which needs to go in this picture is the entire system of money which was set up in 1913, including the income tax, including the federal reserve, including fractional reserve banking, and including the idea of banks rather than governments having the power to coin/create money.

We only have five or six big problems which need to be resolved and all but one of those are simple (just vote against democrats), it's just the one which is complicated. The near zero interest rates which we have now are having catastrophic effects on society:

http://able2know.org/topic/197544-1

and there is no hope of getting back to a healthy five or six percent rate with the present system. Raising rates even to three or four percent would immediate bankrupt the federal government and kill all the banks (which are locking into 30 year mortgage loans at 3.5 percent).

Again I recommend everybody have a copy of Ellen Brown's book:

www.webofdebt.com

and follow the blog site linked from that.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2012 02:57 pm
@gungasnake,
yeh, lets go back to the guilded ge when there was NOsafety net for anyone. Al you hadda do was choose your ancestors carefully so yopu too could be one of the oligarchs.
We would steer right into another BIGGER oligarchy with gungasnakke ideas in the lead.

Remember. we are now a POST industrial country
gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2012 07:58 pm
@farmerman,
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yeh, lets go back to the guilded ge when there was NOsafety net for anyone. ..


I didn't say that and I didn't say anything about going back to a gold standard.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 15 Sep, 2012 08:32 am
More:

http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2012/09/13/egan-jones-analyst-hints-at-us-rating-downgrade-post-qe3/

Quote:
Egan-Jones Analyst Hints At US Rating Downgrade Post QE3
By Market News International || September 13, 2012 at 19:30 GMT
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–QE3 To Lead To higher Unemployment, Stall US Growth Within Months
–’We Are Not Receiving QE3 Positively’
By Yali N’Diaye
WASHINGTON (MNI) – The latest round of quantitative easing
announced Thursday by the Federal Reserve will almost certainly trigger
a rating downgrade by Egan-Jones.
Already the rating agency had warned on Wednesday when it affirmed
the U.S. rating at AA that “QE3 will likely trigger a negative action.”
Given that the outlook is already negative (AA-), a downgrade to
AA- would be a logical next step for the rating agency.
“We are not receiving QE3 positively,” Vice President and
co-manager of the ratings’ desk Bill Hassiepen told MNI Thursday, while
the fiscal situation is a “nightmare.”
While the Fed is seeking to support economic growth through its
quantitative easing, Hassiepen argued that the central bank’s “massive
monetization” is instead causing “sluggish to stagnant economic growth.”
In fact, he expects growth to become stagnant within six months as
a result of the Fed’s policy.
The reason the country does not have a weaker rating, he said, is
that it remains “the only viable reserve currency in the world.”
The Federal Reserve Open market Committee said Thursday it “agreed
today to increase policy accommodation by purchasing additional agency
mortgage-backed securities at a pace of $40 billion per month,” but did
not announce an end date. At the same time, it will continue its
Operation Twist through the end of the year as it is currently
scheduled, while “maintaining its existing policy of reinvesting
principal payments from its holdings of agency debt and agency
mortgage-backed securities in agency mortgage-backed securities.”
The Federal Reserve’s “money printing,” Hassiepen said, has not
“really contributed to the improvement in the general economy” so far.
Instead, all it has done is increase inflation and the cost
structure in the general economy, as will the new round of QE just
announced Thursday.
“We actually think this is going to cause unemployment, not
employment,” he said. the Fed’s policy will reduce household’s
disposable income and raising costs will also “lead companies to lay off
people,” he said.
“Let’s say six months from now, you might see job actions” in some
of the more commodity-sensitive industries that are particularly
vulnerable to an increase in commodity prices and a weak dollar, he
predicted.
“This is going to cause the economy to completely stagnate,” he
said, expecting the effect to start within three or four months.
He first expects a “rapid uptick in gasoline and food prices,”
which will affect households’ disposable income. This in turn will take
several months to work its way through into the general economy.
“People are going to feel nostalgic for the 1.7% for the last
quarter,” he said, referring to the second quarter GDP growth.
“Unfortunately we have a Federal Reserve that simply does not
recognize the inflationary impact of food and energy prices any longer,”
he said.
He expects another “massive uptick in the speculation in the
strategic commodities and energy markets.” Speculators, he said, hedge
themselves against a depreciating dollar by “boosting up the cost of the
commodity.”
“They have been doing it since 2004 and it’s worked,” he said.
While the Fed’s policy is increasing the costs structure in the
economy, he said wages are stagnant. “You don’t have the buying power in
the economy,” he argued, and buying more securities won’t resolve that
issue.
Hassiepen also stressed that “the United States’ financial
flexibility is almost gone given $16 trillion in debt,” which is 104% of
GDP, and there is no real plan to put “the fiscal house under control.”
In fact, even sequestration would not solve the problem of U.S.
deficits, he said.
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