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Deaf boy's name violates school weapon's policy

 
 
Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 12:13 pm
I'll just leave this here:


Quote:
A Nebraska preschool is asking a three-year-old deaf boy to change his name because it violates the school board's weapons policy.

Hunter Spanjer signs his first name by making what looks like shooting gestures with both hands. He crosses his fingers when he does it - a modification to show it's his proper name.

But the Grand Island Public Schools board says its "Weapons in Schools" policy bans "any instrument ... that looks like a weapon." The school wants him to change the sign, a request Hunter's family says is both unfair and silly.

"Anybody that I have talked to thinks this is absolutely ridiculous. This is not threatening in any way," Hunter's grandmother Janet Logue told local news station 1011.

"It's a symbol. It's an actual sign, a registered sign," said Hunter's father, Brian Spanjer.

The school board wants to work out a compromise.

"We are working with the parents to come to the best solution we can for the child," said school board spokesman Jack Sheard.

But the Spanjers say they aren't interested. They're bringing in lawyers from the National Association of the Deaf to fight for their son's right to sign his own name.

Meanwhile, local residents told the station the school is overreacting and that Hunter poses no danger.
 
sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 12:23 pm
@boomerang,
I probably know the lawyers!

First I've heard of this though.

I did the sign as best I could from the description, I don't recognize it as anything in particular. It's definitely not a standard namesign (standard spots are temple, chin, a movement by the head in general, center of chest, over heart), but not all namesigns are standard.

The weapons policy stuff is silly of course.

Edit: Oh, "Hunter," I get it. They're usually parallel. Crossing, hmm. That whole thing strikes me as hearing people being a little too clever, not actual ASL, but that's incidental.

Edit #2: Yep, my pal Howard's on the case:

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Howard Rosenblum, CEO of the National Association of the Deaf, told HuffPost his organization was prepared to assist the Spanjers with legal action if necessary. "A name sign is the equivalent of a person's name, and to prohibit a name sign is to prohibit a person's name," he wrote in an email.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/28/hunter-spanjer-3-year-old_n_1836159.html
DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 12:30 pm
@boomerang,
I've got a sign for the school board that I don't think they'll like....
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 12:43 pm
@boomerang,
I suggest that they substitute the next finger when making the sign, but only when the school board members are present.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 01:07 pm
@TimeTravel ,
Hi TimeTravel, you're doing a good job with the whole ultraconservative satire! Kind of Colbert-esque but you've got your own spin, keep up the good work.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 01:23 pm
@boomerang,
boomerang wrote:
A Nebraska preschool is asking a three-year-old deaf boy to change his name because it violates the school board's weapons policy.

This is an Onion article right? If not, have you asked OmSigDavid to recommend a good Second-Amendment lawyer? This clearly violates the constitutional right to keep and bear names, and say them with your arms, or something.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 01:43 pm
@sozobe,
I guess he is going to be in trouble when it comes time to learn to count. The # 21 is signed just like you are shooting a finger gun. I guess the whole ASL numbering system is going to have to change.
sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 01:44 pm
@Baldimo,
Right, good point!

That's actually a really good point, I might even pass that on to Howard.
sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 01:46 pm
@sozobe,
Just did!
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 02:03 pm
@Baldimo,
I'm trying to think of other "gun" handshapes.

Lawyer/ law Smile
Later
Life/ live
Shot (as in vaccination)
Lunch
Because
contrex
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 02:34 pm
Remember, folks, it's not gestures that kill people - it's guns! Er, wait...
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chai2
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 02:44 pm
@sozobe,
sozobe wrote:

I'm trying to think of other "gun" handshapes.

Lawyer/ law Smile
Later
Life/ live
Shot (as in vaccination)
Lunch
Because



You can tell your lawyer later at lunch they need to get a life because of this.

chai (I couldn't work vaccination in there) tea
sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 02:46 pm
@chai2,
You can tell your lawyer later (after he gets his shots) that they need to get a life because this is crazy.

(You can do crazy with a "gun" handshape too.)

There!

<high five>
boomerang
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 03:15 pm
Maybe...

Hunter has to get 21 shots later, after lunch, because his crazy lawyer, Gunnar, said so.

I was telling Mo about this because we still use the "kid got kicked out of school for the GI Joe gun" story as our craziest example of zero tolerance policies. We both agree that this one is way, way crazier.

Soz, I figured you would know some of the people involved in this fight. Keep us up to date on what's happening.
chai2
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 04:35 pm
@boomerang,
I just watched the video of hunter signing his name. You know what I have to say to this....?




Seriously, WTF is this world coming to that someone (there had to be a particular person that first came up with this ridiculous notion) can just run all over everyone else that has common sense.

I'm disgusted with people that must get up in the morning and think "what can I complain about today, and make everyone else take seriously, or else they are all being insensitive?"
Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 04:46 pm
What worries me the most right now is that Chai and I are in complete agreement. Isn't that one of those tell-tale signs of the impending apocalypse?
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 05:00 pm
@sozobe,
sozobe wrote:
You can tell your lawyer later (after he gets his shots) that they need to get a life because this is crazy.

Have you considered doing this sentence (and a two-minute explainer around it) on YouTube? I think you and Chai might have just come up with a pretty awesome consciousness-raiser for hearing people. And not many people besides you can make it work.
boomerang
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 05:33 pm
@chai2,
Quote:
I'm disgusted with people that must get up in the morning and think "what can I complain about today, and make everyone else take seriously, or else they are all being insensitive?"


No ****.

Well said.

I'm amazed by that too. Have we really become this silly as a society? It's as if in our quest to show respect to everybody we don't show any respect to anyone.
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chai2
 
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Reply Tue 28 Aug, 2012 05:52 pm
@Thomas,
Yeah, this could really work.

Soz could be doing the signing, and I'd be the translator.

Then, halfway through it, I could get all verklempt, saying "excuse me, I need a minute. All these things "she's" (indicating with finger pointing to soz behind concealing palm) saying to me, is making me feel "lesser than"

We could then start throwing gang signs to each other while Tico does a voice-over giving his 1-800 number and saying "Have you been treated in a disrespectful fashion as any point in your life? Then call me."
 

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