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2016 moving to #1 spot

 
 
gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 04:04 am
http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/08/26/my-day-at-the-movies-2016-obamas-america/

Quote:

By Mr. Curmudgeon:

It’s unusual for political documentaries to become box-office hits, but that seems to be the case for the film “2016: Obama’s America.” Dinesh D’Souza, who is also the film’s narrator, wrote the book from which the Rocky Mountain Pictures’ offering gets its name.

According to Deadline Hollywood, Friday’s box-office rating put Sylvester Stallone’s “Expendables 2” at number one, “The Bourne Legacy” in second place and “2016” in third. “That’s stunning,” said the entertainment website, “because it’s playing in 1/3 less theaters across North America than the other wide-release actioners.”

The film explores President Obama’s early years; in particular, the people who influenced him and, more importantly, the absent father who’s anti-colonial, socialist dreams the younger Obama embraced and, according to the film, seeks to fulfill.

Unlike the heavy-handed, left-leaning documentaries of director Michael Moore, D’Souza takes a measured approach to his subject, and begins his narrative journey by describing the similarities between himself and the president. D’Souza grew up in a Third World nation (India) where tradition dictates the direction of one’s life – from career path down to the person you wed. And D’Souza grew up with a distain for imperial British rule to rival that of Barack Obama Sr.

Where D’Souza and the president’s world-views diverge is the most interesting aspect of “2016”: Obama adopted the malevolent and resentful anti-colonial leftism of his father – so prevalent in the Third World. D’Souza, on the other hand, embraced the anti-colonialism of America’s Founding Fathers that cherishes individual liberty and its powerful residual force – free-market prosperity.

It is D’Souza’s contention that to fulfill his father’s anti-colonial dreams, Obama believes he must bring about America’s economic decline by increasing our indebtedness to foreign lenders, increasing the nation’s dependence on foreign energy suppliers, increasing the tax burden on the nation’s citizens by adding a new dictatorial health-care entitlement program, and dramatically decreasing or eliminating our nation’s nuclear deterrent.

I attended a screening of “2016” where I live in swing-state Florida. When the house lights flickered back to life, I asked fellow film-goer Bob (he asked that his last name be withheld) for his impressions of the film. Originally, from Boston, Bob described himself as a diehard Massachusetts’ Democrat-turned-Republican and former Internal Revenue Service employee.

“If we don’t change our economic thinking and get this guy [Obama] out of the White House, we won’t have a country,” he said.

“There’s a man in the White House that hates America,” continued Bob, “The American dream is becoming the American nightmare and this guy is doing it on purpose.”....
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 04:10 am
http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/

Quote:

The shocker among all the films was Rocky Mountain Pictures’ political documentary 2016 Obama’s America which opened July 13th in very limited release and expanded into theaters across America this weekend. It wound up in 4th place Friday and 8th place for the weekend. That’s stunning because it was playing in 2/3 fewer theaters across North American than the other wider release films. (See below for more details). Due to its hot pre-sales, the pic proved frontloaded which explains why its ranking started out #1 and then fell steeply by end of Sunday. But the doc’s new cume of $9.0M makes it the #1 all-time biggest-grossing conservative political documentary, besting Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed’s $7.7M. And the 6th all-time biggest political documentary behind liberal docs by Michael Moore and Al Gore. (Neither ranking is adjusted for inflation or higher ticket prices.) ......
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 04:50 am
Perhaps the Republicans should nominate someone who genuinely shares their values. What about this guy? He may be too left wing for Gungasnakkke's tastes.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59726000/jpg/_59726893_breivik.jpg

Obama is quite right of centre. If you think he's a Socialist, you're either very stupid, don't know what a Socialist is, or both.
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 05:53 am
Meanwhile.....

In usual Drudge overhyped fashion #1 means 8.
http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/
Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 05:58 am
Quote:
Movies, Politics, Racism, Racist Phoenix, Phoenix Loses It


These are the tags that have been put on this thread. Not arguments countering what I have postulated, but nasty remarks "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing".

I have a point of view, as do all of us. My expectations are that my right to this view, although not that of some on this forum, be treated with the respect that I give people with whom I disagree. Graffiti is not a substitute for a well thought out discussion.

If (and I surely hope not) Obama wins a second term, I believe that the country is in deep trouble.

If he does win, and we have a discussion about this again in 2016, I sincerely hope that I will not have to say, "I told you so".
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 06:03 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

You ever been outside of Chicago??

Sure. You ever been outside your mom's basement?
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 06:17 am
@parados,
parados wrote:

Meanwhile.....

In usual Drudge overhyped fashion #1 means 8.
http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

These FACTS bear repeating! Seven weeks in the movie theaters. The film's total gross is 9+million. It WILL NEVER reach #1 on the box office list. I suspect this weekend's $6 million box office peak was due to some millionaire trying to game the system by buying $3+ million dollars worth of movie tickets.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 06:26 am
@tsarstepan,
This week was due to adding almost 1000 theaters showing the movie. It was in limited release earlier. Small films often do that.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 08:09 am
@Phoenix32890,
Phoenix32890 wrote:

Quote:
Movies, Politics, Racism, Racist Phoenix, Phoenix Loses It


These are the tags that have been put on this thread. Not arguments countering what I have postulated, but nasty remarks "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing".

I have a point of view, as do all of us. My expectations are that my right to this view, although not that of some on this forum, be treated with the respect that I give people with whom I disagree. Graffiti is not a substitute for a well thought out discussion.

If (and I surely hope not) Obama wins a second term, I believe that the country is in deep trouble.

If he does win, and we have a discussion about this again in 2016, I sincerely hope that I will not have to say, "I told you so".



You dared to go against the tribe Phoenix. You dared to think for yourself and now you have been castigated.

As for the topic, I have not seen the movie, nor read the book. But, I will not be voting for Obama anyways.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 08:15 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
But, I will not be voting for Obama anyways.

Damn, you could knock me over with a fender.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 08:21 am
@Phoenix32890,
"Racist Gunga" is a tautology, so it would be phoolish to tag the thread that way.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 11:42 am
For those with an open mind, this review may help you to understand as to why I came to my conclusions. For those who don't care to expand his knowledge of the issue, just scroll by.


http://www.policymic.com/articles/13492/2016-obama-america-movie-review-and-spoilers-of-the-most-powerful-documentary-of-the-year
DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 12:05 pm
@Phoenix32890,
Can you define "anti-colonialism" for me?

Doesn't really sound all that scary too me, and I don't find guilt by association to be very persuasive.
Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 12:29 pm
@DrewDad,
In years past, countries such as Great Britain, France etc. held other countries as colonies. To the anti-colonialist, the great empires used their colonies for the benefit of their own countries, to the detriment of the people living in the colonies.

Those who opposed the colonialist power structure were anti-colonialists.

In the view of D'Sousa, the United States is neo-colonialist. In his view Obama considers that by having commercial interests in other countries, is tantamount to using these countries for their manpower, raw materials, etc. D'Sousa postulates that Obama would like to "even the playing field" by weakening the country with regards to the rest of the world.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 12:36 pm
@Phoenix32890,
Have you any idea of what's going on in Honduras right now?

Quote:
Background to the Honduran coup: Poverty, exploitation and imperialist domination

By Rafael Azul
9 July 2009

On June 28, a US-trained army with close links to the US Southern Command removed President Manuel Zelaya from office, kidnapped him and expelled him from Honduras. Given the close relationship between the Honduran army and the Pentagon, it is not credible that the coup took place without Washington’s knowledge and tacit approval.

Behind the coup, which installed a new president, Roberto Micheletti, is one of the most exploitative and oppressive political and economic systems in the world upon which the wealthy landowning and businesses elites, the military and the church depend for their wealth. These forces are now threatened by the escalation of the class struggle.


http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jul2009/hond-j09.shtml

All this for the interests of a few wealthy Americans. If Obama put an end to this sort of **** he'll be doing America a favour, and raise its standing in the international community.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 12:48 pm
@Phoenix32890,
Phoenix32890 wrote:

In years past, countries such as Great Britain, France etc. held other countries as colonies. To the anti-colonialist, the great empires used their colonies for the benefit of their own countries, to the detriment of the people living in the colonies.

Those who opposed the colonialist power structure were anti-colonialists.

With you so far....

Phoenix32890 wrote:
In the view of D'Sousa, the United States is neo-colonialist. In his view Obama considers that by having commercial interests in other countries, is tantamount to using these countries for their manpower, raw materials, etc. D'Sousa postulates that Obama would like to "even the playing field" by weakening the country with regards to the rest of the world. [/b][/color]

"In his view Obama considers...."

lulz.

Obama has had over three years to implement his anti-neo-colonialism policies. What has he actually done?

Pushed through the auto bailout?

Health care reform?

What?
parados
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 12:53 pm
@DrewDad,
Maybe Obama has weakened the country by failing to extend the debt ceiling until the last minute.

Oh.... wait... those were different neo-something or others.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 12:54 pm
@DrewDad,
C'mon. You know that facts don't really matter with this crowd, who is really just trying to justify the quasi-racist feelings that lead them to dislike Obama so much.

Cycloptichorn
McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 12:58 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Hey Phoenix, welcome to "this crowd". Looks like you got the boot from "the tribe".

Oh, and by the way, you are a quasi-racist now for expressing your views against Obama.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 27 Aug, 2012 01:00 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

Hey Phoenix, welcome to "this crowd". Looks like you got the boot from "the tribe".


You must not be up to speed - that happened years ago.

Quote:
Oh, and by the way, you are a quasi-racist now for expressing your views against Obama.


I believe that internally-held and difficult-to-admit racist beliefs are the foundation of the vast majority of the non-policy based criticism of Obama. I have long maintained that the Birther issue (which D'Souza was a major proponent of) and the 'Obama's a Muslim!' attack are both examples of this.

I would say that your side of the fence would have a much better argument against this case, were even 1 out of 10 of you familiar with any of the details of both Obama's policies and the GOP policies you purportedly support. As I mentioned the other day, it's depressing how few people who participate in political forums put even a single ounce of research into policy details, or how different politicians' plans will affect the country. Instead, what we see more often is this stupid 'neo-colonialist' bullshit.

Cycloptichorn
 

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