18
   

They’re 18 for Gods sake

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 03:26 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
For now, the law is the law...and the woman is in prison
.

Is she in prison? as given the likely strength of her appeals she might get the court to grant her bond during the appeal process.

Does anyone know of what her lawyers are doing or saying?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 03:27 pm
A teacher was in the news a few minutes ago, for the same offense, with a 17 year old. The commentator reminded us that student teacher sex is a felony, even though 17 is old enough to be considered an adult.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 03:32 pm
@Rockhead,
Quote:
you ever spent any time in Texas, frank?

it is an eye opening experience for a lot of folks...


Oil or no oil I wish we could give back a few of the border states to Mexico and have them deal with their redneck populations.

Hell here is my idea/plan we give those states back to Mexico and then do what General Lee should have been able to do in 1812 and take Canada.

With all the tar sands of Canada who would need Texas. Razz
Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 03:34 pm
@BillRM,
so we just take canada by force.

because as americans, god says we can do whatever we want?

Shocked

I don't think mexico wants texas. just a guess...
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 03:34 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
even though 17 is old enough to be considered an adult.


Sorry in the US a 17 years old is not an adult in any way.

The age of sexual consent can be below 18 in some states but that does not given them adult rights.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 03:37 pm
@BillRM,
You would not make much of a Texan, bill.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 03:39 pm
@Rockhead,
Quote:
so we just take canada by force.

because as americans, god says we can do whatever we want?
\

We could had done so in 1812 but we had a **** poor general in charge of the operation base out of Detroit by the name of Lee and it not god or a god it the best military machine in the world that would allow us to do so at our whim.

The same way we took the border states in 1840 and before for that matter from Mexico.

A think it would be a wonderful trade but for the damn French Canadians.

contrex
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 03:41 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
A think it would be a wonderful trade but for the damn French Canadians.


Canada is in the British Commonwealth and we have nuclear weapons.


BillRM
 
  1  
Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 03:44 pm
@Rockhead,
Quote:
I don't think mexico wants texas. just a guess...
er

Do not blame them and you might be right after all they did not take the German offer up to help them take back the southern states contain in the Zimmerman telegram.

Still I think we should take Canada some weekend just for the hell of it and the oil sands.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 03:45 pm
Here is today's story. Note that the 17 year olds are considered of age.
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HOUSTON—An Alief ISD teacher accused of having inappropriate sexual contact with a student appeared before a Harris County judge Tuesday morning.

Jeffrey Guzman, a 32-year-old economics teacher at Elsik High School, was charged with felony improper relationship with a student.

The judge ordered him to stay away from his accuser.

Attorney James Fallon said his client is innocent.

“Right now we don’t know the full extent of them (the allegations) but we do know there were no underage students involved,” Fallon said. “These were all people that were all legal in the eyes of the state of Texas.”

In Texas, it is illegal for a teacher to have sexual relations with a student -- regardless of age.

According to court documents, Guzman sent partially-clothed photos of himself and sexually graphic text messages to a 17-year-old student at his school. He also allegedly picked the teen up from her home and drove her to a location where he kissed and fondled her.

Since those allegations surfaced, two more female students have come forward saying they were victimized as well. The girls, who were both 18 at the time, said they had sex with Guzman.

One woman, who didn’t want her name used, said Guzman was tutoring her in economics when the relationship started.

She said he stopped calling after a couple of months and moved onto "the next target."

"I just felt humiliated. It was probably the lowest that I’ve ever felt about myself," she said. "My heart goes out to the other girls that had to go through it. Nobody deserves that. Nobody deserves to be taken advantage of that way."

The alleged victims described Guzman as a smooth talker and a master manipulator.

His attorney says he is a family man.

“He’s a dad and a husband and he’s going through a hard time,” said Fallon.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 03:50 pm
@contrex,
Quote:
Canada is in the British Commonwealth and we have nuclear weapons


Sorry England does what we tell it to do and that been the case since WW2 but for that little independent affair with France and Israel to take the Suez Canal without our permission forcing President Eisenhower to take your PM out behind the wood pile.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 03:53 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
Note that the 17 year olds are considered of age.


She is a minor.....not an adult under the law.

All legal mean older then the age of consent in Texas that is not one and the same thing.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 04:10 pm
@BillRM,
PS myself I blamed the French for talking your government into seizing the canal without our permission.

The French are a bad influence on people.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 04:16 pm
@BillRM,
The subject is sex and being of age for sex. 17 is of age.
BillRM
 
  1  
Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 04:31 pm
@edgarblythe,
No the subject is the right of the state of Texas or any other state to interfere with adults rights to form consenting sexual relationships with other adults no one had question the right of states to make rules for minors concerning consenting to sex.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 04:39 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
Canada is in the British Commonwealth and we have nuclear weapons


Sorry England does what we tell it to do


England may but Canada doesn't (and we're a big source of uranium Mr. Green )
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 04:45 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

A think it would be a wonderful trade but for the damn French Canadians.


and since they're liberally (hahahahaha) sprinkled all over the country AND compose a disproportionate segment of our Armed Forces, you'd have a heck of a time figuring out what was happening

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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 04:53 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
England may but Canada doesn't (and we're a big source of uranium


In the 48 to maybe 80 hours if we allow our troops to take a lot of breaks to overrun your country making nukes out of Uranium ore would be a hard task indeed. Drunk

Footnote I know how large Canada happen to be and the time estimates I was talking about deal with the time it would take to seized and control 90 percents of the population that happen to sit right on our border.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 04:57 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Sorry England does what we tell it to do and that been the case since WW2 but for that little independent affair with France and Israel to take the Suez Canal without our permission forcing President Eisenhower to take your PM out behind the wood pile.


And boy oh boy has it cost you. And here you are Bill in bed with the Guardian. ******* Nora man you are one confused silly moo cow. It's been obvious that you're a yellow bellied liberal pants shitter for ages waving a gun about which never went off in anger.

Have you ever heard a gun go off in anger Bill? Apart from on TV News I mean. In the movies they dub the bang bangs with paper bag pops. And practice swagger walking in a studio lot. Do you wear a banana in your pants?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 21 Aug, 2012 05:04 pm
@Rockhead,
Quote:
you ever spent any time in Texas, frank?

it is an eye opening experience for a lot of folks...


Never did, Rock. I am sure there are good and bad there, just as there are good and bad here in New Jersey and almost everywhere else.

The southern mentality bothers me, but I fight it because, in my opinion, it is as much a product of inappropriate prejudice as racial or ethnic prejudices.

I hear there is a lot of hot air there!
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