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136 Years Ago Today . . .

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 11:55 am
@Lustig Andrei,
Lustig Andrei wrote:
Not long before his demise, Hickok was interviewed by Henry Morton Stanley, the British journalist who later gained fame in Africa by finding the missing Dr. Livingstone in search of the source of the Nile River. Asked by the hero-adoring Stanley how many men he had killed in his life, Hickok said, offhandedly, "Oh about 30 or so." Stanley actually took him seriously. It's on record that at the time he had killed, at the very least, two or three men, one of them his own deputy marshall in Abilelene, KS, whom he shot by accident.
Yeah, u gotta be careful about your target.



Lustig Andrei wrote:
But that was fairly typical of Hickok's bragadoccio.
He considered himself the greatest gunfighter in the West.
He was VERY good. He was de facto in training since the age of 9,
when his father required him to begin hunting game.





Lustig Andrei wrote:
(In fairness, it must be admitted that he was a sharpshooter of great skill with a six-gun. He spent a year with Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show demonstrating his marksmanship to oo-ing and ah-ing audiences. He didn't like the regmentation of curtain-time, however, and left after one season.)

Ned Buntline went looking for people he could popularize and immortalize. Hitchcock was his own best press agent.
Yeah, I habitually watched his show, Alfred Hitchcock Presents on Sunday nites in the 1950s.





Lustig Andrei wrote:
(Again, in fairness, Buffalo Bill Cody ran him a very, very close second.)

BTW, Cody was in the neighborhood when Hickok sat at his final poker game.
Buffalo Bill had volunteered his services to the Army in chasing down the "renegades"
From what had thay reneged ?





Lustig Andrei wrote:
who had done in Custer and company at the Little Big Horn, leaving his theatrical troupe in Philadelphia where the U.S.entennial observance was in full swing. This, from all I can gather, was also a publicity stunt. The Army had no need of Cody's so-called "services"
but it made all the late editions.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 12:13 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
From what had thay reneged ?


If you knew anything at all about the numerous genocidal actions of successive US governments, you wouldn't have to ask, Om. But as far as Americans go, and you in particular, Ignorance R' Us.
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Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 02:07 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
The story was that Bill made it a point to avoid that position (an idiosyncrasy for which he was KNOWN)
for reasons of personal security, but on one occasion (his last occasion),
he arrived LATE for an appointment to play poker.

His friends had some fun, at his expense, by denying him
any vacancy at the poker table, except the position to which he was aversive,
where he sat for the rest of his life


There is another theory, i.e. that the people he was to play cards with were in no sense "his friends." They made sure he sat with his back to the door because they had already arranged for the drunken McCall to come in from behind.

In his time, Hickok had made quite a few mortal enemies.
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 02:12 pm
This is fun, JTT. You keep posting horseshit and I keep collapsing your posts on my machine. Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green
Rickoshay75
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 02:13 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
Buffalo Bill had volunteered his services to the Army in chasing down the "renegades" who had done in Custer and company at the Little Big Horn,


Merry the "historian".


Buffalo Bill had volunteered his services to the hired assassins in chasing down people who could no longer stand the perfidy of the US government and who had then done in Custer and company [a fitting end for a genocidal monster] at the Little Big Horn.

Quote:
Jerome A. Greene. "Washita." Chap. 8, p.169.
Ben Clack told Walter M. Camp: many of the squaws captured at Washita were used by the officers...Romero was put in charge of them and on the march Romero would send squaws around to the officers' tents every night. [Clark] says Custer picked out a fine looking one and had her in his tent every night."
This statement is more or less confirmed by Frederick Benteen, who in 1896 asserted that Custer selected Monahseetah/Meotzi from among the women prisoners and cohabited with her "during the winter and spring of 1868 and '69" until his wife arrived in the summer of 1869. Although Benteen's assertions regarding Custer are not always to be trusted, his statements nonetheless conform entirely to those of the reliable Ben Clark and thus cannot be ignored."

http://www.nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/242/custer-rape-genocide-happy-meals



See also,



http://www.dickshovel.com/was.html


Nothing unusual here. As with all armies, women camp followers were available for both pleasure and sadism, and it didn't matter if they were, red, black or white.
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 07:45 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
Show me how it's horseshit, Merry.
roger
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 09:18 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
Lustig Andrei wrote:

In his time, Hickok had made quite a few mortal enemies.


At least one of whom survived.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 09:48 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
The story was that Bill made it a point to avoid that position (an idiosyncrasy for which he was KNOWN)
for reasons of personal security, but on one occasion (his last occasion),
he arrived LATE for an appointment to play poker.

His friends had some fun, at his expense, by denying him
any vacancy at the poker table, except the position to which he was aversive,
where he sat for the rest of his life
Lustig Andrei wrote:
There is another theory, i.e. that the people he was to play cards with were in no sense "his friends."
They made sure he sat with his back to the door because
they had already arranged for the drunken McCall to come in from behind.

In his time, Hickok had made quite a few mortal enemies.
It is unlikely in the extreme that he 'd have put up with THAT.
He 'd not let his enemies set him up.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 09:52 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
Lustig Andrei wrote:
This is fun, JTT. You keep posting horseshit and I keep collapsing your posts on my machine. Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green
I have that AUTOMATED already: the blessed Ignore Button.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 01:54 pm

The moral of the story is: DON 'T sit with your back toward the door.





David
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Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 02:02 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Show me how it's horseshit, Merry.


All your posts are totally irrelevant to the subject at hand. You have a personal agenda, start a thread on it. While on this one, please try and stick to the subject. It is universally known that Geo. Armstrong Custer had at least one, possibly several, native mistresses; that members of the 7th Cavalry routinely used the sexual services of native women; etc. etc. Why bother posting this tripe here? It has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

This is the last time I answer one of your posts on this thread. You pull this **** again, I'm putting you on "ignore", possibly something I should have done long ago.
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 02:07 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
It is unlikely in the extreme that he 'd have put up with THAT.
He 'd not let his enemies set him up.


There's no reason to think he recognized them as "enemies." They were people he played poker with, that's all. There are eye-witness accounts that indicate he asked whether he could sit with his back to the wall when he joined the game but everyone insisted on keeping the seats they had. If he wanted to play, he couldn't really make that much of an issue of it.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 02:48 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
That 's what can happen when u show up LATE.
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 08:42 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
Quote:
It is universally known that Geo. Armstrong Custer had at least one, possibly several, native mistresses; that members of the 7th Cavalry routinely used the sexual services of native women; etc. etc.


Don't try and pull this nonsense, Merry. You are such a rank apologist for the crimes of the US. Not mistresses, Merry, rape and murder. When the government has a policy of genocide, it's hardly surprising that the underlings go for it with great gusto. And that's been the case in every illegal invasion the US has been involved in.
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 08:58 pm
@JTT,
So what?

What does it have to do with the shootout that killed Hickok?

You're just a pain-in-the-ass troll that goes around sabotaging other people's threads with totally irrelevant material. You're pathetic.

You're also on my "ignore" list for a while, at least, as of now.
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 09:12 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
Quote:
So what?

What does it have to do with the shootout that killed Hickok?


So what?

Your ******* government commits genocide against Native Americans, steals their land - DEADWOOD and the Black Hills.

Quote:
2. The Black Hills are stolen land.

In 1868, the U.S. government signed a treaty with various American Indian peoples guaranteeing Indian ownership of the Black Hills forever. Just nine years later the government took back the land (there’s a term for that, isn’t there?) following the discovery of gold in the Black Hills.

In other words, a proud monument commemorating heroes of American democracy sits on land acquired through lies.



And you say, "So what?" As I said, a rank apologist. You would have made a great member of the Gestapo or a top commandant at a German concentration camp.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1980 that the Black Hills had been illegally seized and ordered the federal government to pay $105 million to the American Indians still residing in the region.

The money was refused.

What’s more, on another cliff just 17 miles from Rushmore, a new monument is slowly taking shape. Its subject is Crazy Horse, the famous Oglala Lakota leader.

Progress is slow, due to the desire of those involved to avoid using government funds. But when completed, it will be nearly 10 times as tall as Mt. Rushmore — the largest statue in the world.

http://matadornetwork.com/trips/the-shady-history-of-mt-rushmore/


Quote:
U.N. Probe: U.S. Should Return Stolen Sacred Land, Including Mt. Rushmore, to Native Americans

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/5/11/un_probe_us_should_return_stolen


And Merry says, "So what?"
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