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Bagels!?! We got bagels!!

 
 
dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2002 05:32 pm
Patio - should the talk turn, as it has, to hairy bums - which I cannot but see as an unpleasant animadversion to your nomenclature of me as "hare" - I shall, you being fleshed in a canine avatar, be forced very soon to make scathing reference to lipsticks and the licking of certain wrinkled portions of the nether anatomy....
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patiodog
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2002 05:45 pm
Red rocket, my funny bunny, red rocket. (And the dog in the picture has only ever had one of those, so far as I know, and he looked very, very confused about it, and shortly turned grumpy and aggressive and had to be put on leash. Now, how that reflects on the pictorated canine or his human, I do not know. But at least my avatar's eyes are logically mounted on the front of his head! You bunnies, always watching overhead, afraid some great godly eagle will drop out of the sky and carry you off by your absurd pinnae...)
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2002 05:48 pm
"Red Rocket"! How grandiose are the imaginings of man...and dog!
As for the leash - well, I rest my case.... I need no leash... pinnae and all.

As for your avatar's eyes ....("he has his father's eyes.....") - he is a predator, and has the eyes of one - I am prey, and must live by seeing the whole picture, and my wits...
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patiodog
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2002 05:59 pm
I was hoping you would bring up predation, because I was contemplating the etymology of this as I scuffled off toward the bathroom (where -- well, I won't tell you what someone was going through in there).

Anyway, predator and predation surely come from predate, yes? Does that mean the predators came first? That would make no sense at all, now, would it? Maybe the OED will have something to say...


And as to red rocket -- I think it may refer to an old type of popsicle, bought in the summer (from a strange man in a van which played children's songs) and was licked until it was reduced to a small, light brown stick. That has some degree of appropriateness, do not you think? "Lipstick," aside from the obvious visual similarities, has a certain -- oh, for God's sake, what's that fancy word that means "woman-hating?" -- ring to it.

Grumble grumble...
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patiodog
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2002 06:14 pm
Misogynistic, that's the word. Linking "lipstick" to penis of a dog strikes me as somewhat misogynistic. But that's sheilas for you...

A brief search led me to nothing conclusive on the etymology question, in case anybody wonders. (It has loads to do with bagels and oz -- even the friends of dorothy, perhaps...) "Date" as a temporal reference originates in the Roman habit of closing each correspondence or record with a notation of when it occurred; this datum -- or piece of data -- became inextricably linked, somehow, with the word for data. Similar origin of the "date" as the name of the fruit, which resembled a finger, which was a digit, which was a common enough thing for the more dimwitted among us to record or count off a datum or data. A "date" for a social engagement -- generally with romantic overtones -- I assume derives from the former derivation (the temporal one) rather than the latter (the fruit one), though, in some cases, as with Ms. Gale's friends (Ms. Gale was taken up in a tornado; very appropriate, that; kudos to Mr. Baum, if I've got his name right).

What's it have to do with predation? No idea, though the Romans did coin the phrase. Originally had to do with plundering villages rather than animals eating each other, but, since we tend to project our own negative attributes onto other animals who are simply going about their business, you eventually end up with the present state of affairs around the word.

(No doubt the bunny's already responded and we're crossing posts now.)

Perhaps the Roman's considered a bit of plundering a necessary prelude to a social engagement. You'd think they'd have had it the other way around (not in the sense that the old Greek guys had it the other way around, but rather in reverse order), but there you go.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2002 06:44 pm
Wot?
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patiodog
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2002 06:45 pm
Nothin'. Just trying to purge myself of nonsense before signing off for a week or two.

That really is unintelligible, isn't it? Hmph. Long story short: predation comes from a Latin word for sacking villages, though the relationship between the meaning of the word the meaning of its roots is, so far as I can tell, undetermined.

That and a couple of very light gay nonjokes and some digressory bits, and of course a bit of less-than-coarse discourse on dog-dick.

Cheers!
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2002 06:52 pm
Actually Patio, I both understood and liked what you wrote.

But I thought "wot" was a funny response.

I still do!

Are you disappearing for a break? Enjoy!!!!!
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patiodog
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2002 06:54 pm
Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! You're typing in humorous dialect -- Cockney, most likely! Now I see the light!

(Nonetheless, I did launch into subclauses without ever returning to the subject of the sentence a number of times. If I were German, I'd be verbless, no action, just Acts I-IV of that melancholy and morbid play about the 13th century Danish prince all over the place.)

Yes, going out to New Jersey again over the holiday. Good fun, that.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2002 07:04 pm
Have I been reading you too much? My writing has gone all long and wonky and formless, too....
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2002 07:53 pm
dlowan wrote:
all long and wonky and formless



are you dating again, dlowan?


hehehehehehehehehehe
ohhhhhhhh what a day i'm having
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 20 Dec, 2002 08:08 pm
Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

BETH!

And you're not even DRAWN bad!

So - what sort of day are you having?

....isn't it still yesterday there.....
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 21 Dec, 2002 07:20 am
I was having a fast-asleep by the time you posted day.

i was having a lovely lovely day. a bit errrrrrrr spirited.


hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

so how is long and formless and gormless (isn't that a wonderful word?)
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 21 Dec, 2002 07:22 am
Er.... since I was referring to my sentences - not a "date" - I DARE not tell you what thar word means in Ozlish - I am unable to reply - except by way of an illustrative sentence.

How do you think gormless etc. is?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 21 Dec, 2002 08:29 am
Gormless needs to get a personality and an opinion. But he's got you, so that's taken care of. :wink:

Har, har, har di Hare Hare.


omigawd. it's going to be another of those days.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 21 Dec, 2002 08:31 am
here's the official party line on gormless


gorm·less ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gôrmls)
adj. Chiefly British
Lacking intelligence and vitality; dull.


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[From dialectal gawm, sense, from Middle English gome, notice, from Old Norse gaumr.]

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gormless

adj : British informal [syn: gaumless]
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 21 Dec, 2002 08:50 am
Lawks a mussy!
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 21 Dec, 2002 09:07 am
not that a gormless wonder would ever have a chance with our dearLowan. someone full of gorm is required. that, and an awareness of where all things bagel are.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 21 Dec, 2002 09:10 am
Gorm and bagelful?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 21 Dec, 2002 09:16 am
Lord Bagel of Gormful, breathless and breathtaking suitor of the dearLowan. :wink:
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