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Do you boycott certain businesses?

 
 
JPB
 
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Reply Sun 26 Aug, 2012 02:41 pm
@hawkeye10,
ah, yes. It takes a real man to equate someone to 'trash'.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 26 Aug, 2012 03:22 pm
@Adam4Adam,
This is purposely a community moderated site, I take it, as a matter of principle, and also for economy. It's a free site for all of us but not for the unit (smiles) who owns it. This will sound mushy, but it's a work of art and love for the designer, and over time, some participants. It's meant, though, to be a larger volume posting site in the future, and you can't have a zillion mods working sans pay.

We do have volunteer mods and they break their butts keeping us close to spam free, and answering Contact Us questions and other stuff I don't know about.

In the meantime, there are ways to self mod: the ignore button (but people just love to argue and insult well), and thumbs.
jcboy
 
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Reply Sun 26 Aug, 2012 03:29 pm
@ossobuco,
Yes it is! I've tried to tell Adam to just ignore him.

I always find the spam threads early in the morning and report them. Certain users I use the ignore function and don’t bother to feed them, if you do they thrive on it!

Sometimes being a mod is a thankless job but like you said its volunteer and it’s not always a fun job I’m sure.
jcboy
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2012 05:34 am
@jcboy,
For all those that might have thought the anti Chick Fil A actions were nonsense, progress can occur!

http://chicagophoenix.com/2012/09/18/chick-fil-a-agrees-to-end-anti-gay-donations-mandates-equal-treatment-of-gays/

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After months of negotiations with Ald. Proco “Joe” Moreno over its anti-gay positions and donations, Chick-fil-A has agreed to cease donations from its non-profit charity to anti-gay organizations and issued a company-wide internal mandate calling for the equal treatment of all employees and customers.

WinShape, a non-profit funded by Chick-fil-A, has donated millions of dollars to anti-LGBT organizations — some classified hate groups — including Focus on the Family, according to The Civil Rights Agenda, which worked with Moreno and company executives in an advisory capacity as they negotiated to adopt new policies. Chick-fil-A did not respond to attempts to confirm the information.

“This is a win for the LGBT community,” Moreno said in a statement provided by TCRA. “This is a win for everyone who works for the cause of equal rights, and a win for Chick- fil-A. This is a win for all.”
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2012 09:04 am
@jcboy,
another view

Chick-Fil-A Is Done Fighting Gay Marriage. Kind Of, Maybe.

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Chick-fil-A is looking to put this summer's fast-food culture wars behind it and will no longer donate money to groups fighting to block same-sex marriage—at least that's what gay rights advocates in Chicago are saying. The chicken chain, however, is saying suspiciously little about the whole thing.

Advocacy group The Civil Rights Agenda claims that the pledge came in the form of a letter the company sent to Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno, who had opposed the fast food chain's expansion into the city. The letter, according to the group, promised that the company's not-for-profit arm, The WinShape Foundations, "is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas." Chick-fil-A is also apparently circulating an internal memo that states the company will "treat every person with honor, dignity and respect-regardless of their beliefs, race, creed, sexual orientation and gender."
Moreno, it seems, has been appeased by the new developments and, according to the Chicago Tribune, will no longer stand in the way of Chick-fil-A opening a chain in the Windy City's increasingly trendy Northwest Side ward.

While Moreno described the apparent change in Chick-fil-A policy as a "big win," the Tribune keeps things in perspective:
"[T]he company made nearly identical pledges in a July 19 Facebook post that went up even before Moreno took issue with Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy's opposition to gay marriage. The statement of respect also falls short of Moreno's goal of adding language opposing discrimination against gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people to the company's employee handbook."
Company officials, meanwhile, have been tight-lipped on the decision. When contacted by BuzzFeed, a spokesman neither confirmed nor denied the report, instead sending along an emailed statement reiterating what the chain says has been the its stance all along.

"We have no agenda, policy or position against anyone," the statement said. "We have a 65-year history of providing hospitality for all people and, as a dedicated family business, serving and valuing everyone regardless of their beliefs or opinions. The genuine, historical intent of our WinShape Foundation and corporate giving has been to support youth, family and educational programs."


http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/09/19/chick_fil_a_gay_marriage_chicken_chain_appears_to_quietly_change_winshape_foundation_strategy_.html
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Keith424
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2012 04:27 pm
@jcboy,
Of course he's just shifting the money from business accounts to personal accounts BUT progress is progress. (Until the cow marches at St Pete Pride, and they're a large cash donor to GLBT groups, I'll never eat there!)
MMarciano
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2012 07:37 pm
@Keith424,
As you can imagine christians and christian groups are outraged at Chick Fil A for possibly abandoning their anti gay donations and adding sexual orientation to their protected class policy, outraged LOL only in christianity!
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2012 07:48 pm
@MMarciano,
They're the ones who "love thy neighbor as thyself."
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2012 07:52 pm
@MMarciano,
MMarciano wrote:

As you can imagine christians and christian groups are outraged at Chick Fil A for possibly abandoning their anti gay donations and adding sexual orientation to their protected class policy, outraged LOL only in christianity!

Says who?
MMarciano
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2012 08:23 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

MMarciano wrote:

As you can imagine christians and christian groups are outraged at Chick Fil A for possibly abandoning their anti gay donations and adding sexual orientation to their protected class policy, outraged LOL only in christianity!

Says who?


Shut the **** up! I’m speaking to members who have contributed to this forum and that does not include you.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2012 08:30 pm
@hawkeye10,
That you need to ask shows how ignorant you are. When Chick Fil A's owner made anti-gay comments, and gays talked about staying away from their restaurant, the christian community and/or anti-gay groups went to their restaurant in droves. Who do you think are the majority of anti-gay groups?

Those same people who supported those anti-gay comments were surely outraged by the reversal of opinion by the owner of the company.

That's human nature, or psych 101.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2012 10:07 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Those same people who supported those anti-gay comments were surely outraged by the reversal of opinion by the owner of the company.

there has been no reversal of opinion, there has only been perhaps a decision taken to not use company funds to finance a series of political pressure groups. I also see no reason to expect others who support those pressure groups to be "outraged"....on the contrary I would expect them to thank chick-fil-a for all the checks they have sent over the years and also for their great show of support this year. they will nosh on their chicken sammiches secure in their knowledge that the brand owners are members of their tribe who have done assume good works through the years.

wake me when the company leaders either repudiate their previously stated views or else say that they were wrong to use company funds for this purpose.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2012 10:50 pm
@hawkeye10,
You really don't get it, do you? The owner of Chick Fil A reversed her anti-gay stance. That's what it's about.

That's definitely a reversal of opinion. But then, that's in simple English, so you probably don't understand it.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2012 10:55 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
You really don't get it, do you? The owner of Chick Fil A reversed her anti-gay stance.


says who?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2012 11:06 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Alderman Moreno has confirmed that Chick-fil-A will no longer give money to anti-gay organizations and that they have clarified in an internal document that the company will treat every person equally, regardless of sexual orientation. The Civil Rights Agenda worked closely with the Alderman in an advisory role as he negotiated these concessions with the executives at Chick-fil-A. Additionally, members of TCRA spoke directly with executives at Chick-fil-A during negotiations to aid in educating their decision makers about anti-discrimination policies and issues affecting the LGBT community.

The company has also released an internal memo to its franchise owners and stakeholders stating that all employees should receive equal treatment, no matter what their sexual orientation.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2012 11:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
the company has claimed to treat everyone equally for years, this is not a change. I am not aware of a single allegation that this company ever discriminated against customers or employees based upon sexual orientation.

I am thinking this move was crafty...they have given lots of money to one side of the battle over the years but if pro gay rights people ask them to balance the scales they will say "we no longer contribute to political action organizations.....SO SORRY! Sad "
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2012 12:00 am
@hawkeye10,
You're trying painfully to rewrite the reversal of their position which is the primary discussion.

1. They supported anti-gay positions with donations to such organizations
2. They now support anti-gays in equal employment, and stopped their donations to anti-gay organizations

That's a reversal in anybody's interpretation of position on gays except yours.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 22 Sep, 2012 10:20 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
“I talked earlier today personally with Dan Cathy, CEO of Chick fil-A about the new reports that Chick fil-A had capitulated to demands of the supporters of same sex marriage,” Huckabee writes. “This is not true.” Cathy issued a statement that Huckabee posted on his website:

There continues to be erroneous implications in the media that Chick-fil-A changed our practices and priorities in order to obtain permission for a new restaurant in Chicago. That is incorrect. Chick-fil-A made no such concessions, and we remain true to who we are and who we have been.

Politico reminds readers it was Huckabee who organized the “Chick-fil-A appreciation day” this summer.

So, to recap, Chick-fil-A had allegedly told a Chicago alderman it would no longer contribute to groups that oppose same-sex marriage as a condition for opening a store in his ward. Then we reported that there appears to be a huge loophole allowing the chain to continue funneling cash to anti-equality groups. And now it seems the company CEO is saying it's business as usual.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/09/22/chick_fil_a_gay_marriage_ceo_dan_cathy_tells_mike_huckabee_nothing_changed_at_company.html

it appears that chicka told the Chicago dude that they would not contribute to pro traditional marriage political groups anymore, which made the chicago dude happy, but chicka had stopped doing those contributions last year anyways so now they claim that nothing has changed recently on their actions or views.

we shall see, but I was the first to say here that claims of a Chicka capitulation were vastly over rated.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 22 Sep, 2012 10:26 pm
okay, so the boycott is still on.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 22 Sep, 2012 10:32 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

okay, so the boycott is still on.

didn't you say that as long as Chicka's money did not go to causes you dont approve of then you are fine? They stopped awhile ago, so what is your problem now? it really is that they insist upon saying that they believe something that you dont approve of, isn't it.....
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