parados
 
  1  
Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2012 04:02 pm
@joefromchicago,
joefromchicago wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

I heard that Romney also bought Albania in 1993 and he doesn't want anyone to know about that expenditure.

That can't be true. There are Albanians who still have jobs.

How can you know for sure what is going on in an offshore account?

We can't know whether those Albanians have jobs until we see Romney's tax returns. You don't have inside information from Harry Reid, do you?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2012 04:06 pm
@parados,
That figures; Tirana, Albania, has the largest collection of MBZ's that were stolen from all over Europe.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  2  
Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2012 11:22 pm
@engineer,
The IRS has looked at his returns and, arguably, not for political reasons.

Have they pressed charges against him?

No.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  2  
Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2012 11:23 pm
@tsarstepan,
tsarstepan wrote:

You're right. It never was funny. Romney apparently is speaking out of both sides of his ugly mouth. To the Democrats, "Oh, it's just merely a light hearted joke. Just lighten up." To die hard conservatives, he's dead seriously trying to rally the troops.


As men go, he's rather handsome.

His mouth is ugly?
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2012 11:28 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

There's nothing funny about a liar lying about his how lies, especially for any individual running for the highest office of our country.

Can you identify for us what "TRUTHS" he has ever spoken?


When CI's heart or head eventually explodes it will happen while he is screaming "The lying liar lies about his lies and then lies, lies and lies more!!!"

One hopes he will come back to earth before the explosion takes him down, but is not putting money on it.
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jcboy
 
  1  
Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2012 06:51 am
Mitt is an imbecile. Once the nomination was cinched, there was no need to identify with the potentially damaging birthers seen by the now extremely important political center as a bunch of kooks. Yet he's so witless that he doesn't seem to understand that that is exactly what he accomplished.

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revelette
 
  2  
Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2012 06:59 am
@McGentrix,
I did get it, I simply found it not funny. You did because of the context of birtherism. At least admit to that.
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revelette
 
  1  
Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2012 07:03 am
@joefromchicago,
Quote:
Workers at Sensata Technologies, a business based in Freeport, Illinois, have been protesting Mitt Romney’s campaign stops across the country all summer because the company, which is owned by Bain Capital, is laying off workers in order to hire employees in China. Bain took control of Sensata in 2006; last year, it took over the Freeport plant and announced that it would layoff 165 workers and close it.

Some of the workers, according to Sensata employees, have been forced to train their Chinese replacements, adding insult to the injury that was their looming job loss.

Bain’s role in the layoffs hasn’t been a secret. But given that it took control of Sensata and the plant well after Romney’s departure from the firm, the candidate has thus far steered clear of the controversy, only drawing protests from the workers who want him to step in and stop the plant’s closure. But according to documents detailing Romney’s finances obtained and published yesterday by Gawker, his connection to Sensata is much more direct.

Romney held a direct investment in Sensata through one fund titled “Bain Capital Fund IX, L.P.,” dated December 31, 2009, meaning he has likely financially benefited from Bain’s ownership of the company in the past, and could benefit from the plant’s closure and the outsourcing of the jobs to China. According to his 2011 personal financial disclosure, Romney still holds the Bain Capital fund that contains the Sensata investment.

Romney has a history of outsourcing jobs as the chief executive of Bain Capital. The Washington Post reported in June that under Romney’s leadership Bain “invested in a series of firms that specialized in relocating jobs done by American workers to new facilities in low-wage countries like China and India.” Other companies in which the firm invested sent jobs to Mexico and other low-wage countries around the world.

While that history might be politically toxic, Romney’s proposals wouldn’t stop the outsourcing of American jobs. In fact, his plan to reform the corporate tax code by instituting a territorial tax system would make it easier for American companies to outsource jobs, while at the same time encouraging them to store even more money in offshore tax havens.

Sensata workers, meanwhile, are planning to protest Romney and Bain’s involvement in Sensata at the Republican National Convention next week.


links at the source
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2012 09:57 am
I think these paragraphs in Revelette's post above could use some emphasis:

Quote:
Romney has a history of outsourcing jobs as the chief executive of Bain Capital. The Washington Post reported in June that under Romney’s leadership Bain “invested in a series of firms that specialized in relocating jobs done by American workers to new facilities in low-wage countries like China and India.” Other companies in which the firm invested sent jobs to Mexico and other low-wage countries around the world.

While that history might be politically toxic, Romney’s proposals wouldn’t stop the outsourcing of American jobs. In fact, his plan to reform the corporate tax code by instituting a territorial tax system would make it easier for American companies to outsource jobs, while at the same time encouraging them to store even more money in offshore tax havens.


Yep, Romney's business expertise will help him create jobs. IN CHINA.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2012 10:46 am
@MontereyJack,
Many Americans want that to happen; that's the reason they're voting for Romney!

The simple fact that Romney-Ryan's main goal is to reduce taxes for the rich is not enough to discourage the middle class conservatives to vote for Obama.

They want to lose their jobs too!

Go figure.
mysteryman
 
  1  
Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2012 03:14 pm
@cicerone imposter,
My job can't be sent overseas, so I don't have to worry about it.
RABEL222
 
  1  
Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2012 04:16 pm
@mysteryman,
Typical conservative mind set.
mysteryman
 
  1  
Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2012 04:24 pm
@RABEL222,
Nope, just the truth.
I drive a truck, hauling commercial waste.
Joe Nation
 
  9  
Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2012 05:05 pm
@mysteryman,
Quote:
My job can't be sent overseas, so I don't have to worry about it.


No, MM, you're missing the point, the current brand of what passes for conservatism is exactly what you just said.

It doesn't affect me, so I don't have to worry about it.
I get to keep mine, the rest of you can go pound sand.
As long as I get to keep my guns, I care not what anybody else does with theirs.

It's not the American way of thinking:
did Americans not bond together to rebuild after the Great Depression, did we not work together to defeat racial inequality, did we not form the strongest unions in the world which brought us all fair and safe working conditions, healthcare provisions, wage and contract guarantees and the forty hour week?
When the gas crisis of the seventies hit, did Americans say to each other "**** you, I'm driving my own car, my own self." or did we carpool and network and make things happen for our neighbors and our neighborhoods.

That '**** you' attitude typifies the present Conservative mindset.
**** you, I've got a job.
**** you, I am not paying any taxes to schools or local parks or industrial park projects that would bring in jobs.
**** you, my job gives me healthcare coverage, you can all just stay sick or injured or pack yourselves into the local hospital E R.

And, up in Congress, Ryan and Boehner and Cantor say: **** you. We are not budging from our ill-formed idea that raising taxes on anybody anytime anyhow.... even though that has led the USA to wage TWO WARS without additional revenue, to FUND a drug benefit to seniors (to cover their asses) without the revenue to PAY for it. They didn't even want to pay for the bank bailout under Bush, they just shoved it into the deficit and then had the nerve to say "Golly, we have so much debt!!"

You have aligned yourself with the worst sort of hypocritical people ever to come down the political pike. Conservatives? No, unrecognizable to persons like William Buckley, Barry Goldwater, Rockefeller and so many others.

Sorry about the rant, man, but I hope you will come back to thinking about how we can work together to make things better for the great majority of people like ourselves, working people.

Joe(the one percent do not need us or our help)Nation
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2012 05:31 pm
@Joe Nation,
Joe(wellsaid)Nation, Your response goes way over the heads for people like mm; they have forgotten what got them to live comfortably in the richest nation on earth, and now wants to be stingy and tell others to go f..... yourself, because I got mine.

Small minded people will never understand what this country was all about.

The difference between "them" and "us" is the simple fact that my wife and I are retired, but we're willing to pay more in taxes to help our children's education and health care - over stupid wars in countries half way around the world. More soldiers that return from Afghanistan are now committing suicide, and our government agencies are ignoring them, because there's not enough money to fund for their care, but they can fund billion dollar war machines.

Just crazy.






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JPB
 
  1  
Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2012 05:45 pm
@revelette,
Quote:
You know what this defense of Romney reminds me of? It reminds me of how one of his buddy's at Cranbrook defended him from the Washington Post's report on his days as a high school bully:

My suspicion is that they jokingly said 'Hey, let's go cut his hair.' And went down the hall, and you know, you hold the scissors close to his ear, and you make a lot of snipping sounds, and you may traumatize the guy a little, or scare the guy a little, but no harm, no foul.


My thoughts exactly.
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Krumple
 
  2  
Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2012 06:04 pm
@Joe Nation,
Joe you had a great response but I think you could have stopped at this:

Joe Nation wrote:

It doesn't affect me, so I don't have to worry about it.


This one simple statement is so common of a mindset of many people, it is saddening.
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roger
 
  1  
Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2012 06:34 pm
@Joe Nation,
No. The fact is that all conservatives do not always vote their own self interest.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2012 06:37 pm
@roger,
roger, Joe(saiditright)Nation is responding to mm's post.
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DrewDad
 
  5  
Reply Sat 25 Aug, 2012 09:41 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:

No. The fact is that all conservatives do not always vote their own self interest.

I agree with Joe that the message from the GOP party is pretty much "**** you."

**** you, women. You want cancer screening at Planned Parenthood? **** you.

**** you, teachers. You overpaid babysitters. **** you.



I think Joe's right. They've gone from the party of "no" to the party of "**** you."
 

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