cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 02:05 pm
@jcboy,
Why hasn't this crime have greater media coverage?
Krumple
 
  0  
Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 02:08 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Why hasn't this crime have greater media coverage?


Because people will cry it is a fringe complaint just like obama's birth records arguments. Funny how when you support the team you want all the dirt on the opposition but when it's your team getting the heat you cry fowl.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 02:17 pm
@jcboy,
Technically and legally, Romney was raising money from American citizens when he went abroad. Some people were even flying to Israel to attend the fund raisers.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 02:18 pm
@Krumple,
Who's crying fowl? I'm just asking a question. A simple one at that!

As for the media, they've screwed up for more than a few years.
parados
 
  2  
Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 02:20 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I'm curious what kind of fowl people are calling?

Game hen?
Chicken?
Turkey?
Mallard?
Loon?(that one is Setanta's favorite fowl to call.)
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Krumple
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 02:23 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Who's crying fowl? I'm just asking a question. A simple one at that!

As for the media, they've screwed up for more than a few years.


Wasn't saying you specifically are crying but I find it interesting when the mud slinging starts one side is always in favor of it but when the mud is being hurled in their direction they get all hysterical.

I don't see these events any different than those who were trying to push the obama birth records nonsense. Claiming romney isn't eligible to run because of some foreign financial support is no different. Just more finger pointing and ways to keep americans distracted and sticking up their foam fingers yelling for their team.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 02:27 pm
@Krumple,
Quit your bull ****! Your response was made shortly after I posted my opinion.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 02:39 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Here's another current issue about Romney's pick for VP.

Quote:
Campaigning in Iowa, Obama blames Paul Ryan for blocking farm bill

By Steve Peoples and Ken Thomas

Associated Press

Posted: 08/13/2012 10:47:52 AM PDT

COUNCIL BLUFFS, Iowa -- Targeting Paul Ryan, President Barack Obama blamed the GOP vice presidential candidate on Monday for blocking a farm bill that could help the hurting heartland, marking a fresh attack on the new Republican ticket as both sides vied for votes in Iowa.

Back in the state that catapulted his presidential bid, Obama sought to undermine Ryan and, by extension, both Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and the GOP-led House. The president was back on his campaign bus, trying to snag some of the excitement flowing Romney's way since he named Ryan as his running mate on Saturday.

Noting that he and Ryan were headed toward the Iowa State Fair, Obama told a rally crowd that Ryan, the House budget committee chairman, is among the GOP leaders who have held up a farm bill as the Midwest endures a devastating drought.


Romney has already alienated women, minorities, gays and lesbians, and now is working to alienate farmers.[/b]

Why then is the polls between Obama and Romney so close?

Can anyone explain?
Krumple
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 02:39 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Quit your bull ****! Your response was made shortly after I posted my opinion.


Are you still butt hurt that I said your argument, sorry, question was silly?
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revelette
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 03:29 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Obama’s Favorable Showing Balanced by Romney’s Hold on Men

Quote:
Aug. 8, 2012

There are challenges for both President Barack Obama and Republican rival Mitt Romney in the morning run of polls.

Obama has regained lost ground against Romney among independent voters, crucial in any national election, according to the findings of an ABC News/Washington Post poll. The share of voters who view him favorably is buoyed by his widest advantage so far among women, while Romney stands stronger among men. Romney’s upside-down balance of voters viewing him unfavorably and favorably has widened.

The president holds a narrow advantage over Romney among likely voters in Wisconsin (six percentage points) and Virginia (four points), while Rommey holds a five-point edge over Obama in Colorado — where the president will campaign today — according to a Quinnipiac University poll with CBS News and The New York Times. That adds to a swing-state series of polling that found Obama ahead of Romney in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.






Among all independents surveyed by Langer Associates for ABC and the Post, Obama’s favorability rating is 16 points higher than Romney’s (53 percent to 37 percent). That advantage narrows among independents registered to vote — 46 Obama, 38 Romney.




“Mitt Romney is laboring under the lowest personal popularity ratings for a presumptive presidential nominee in midsummer election-year polls back to 1984,” Langer Associates reports. “But Barack Obama has his own challenges… notably among registered voters, and with much weaker numbers among men than women.”

Forty percent of Americans view Romney favorably, 49 percent unfavorably – “leaving him underwater, at least numerically, in 10 straight ABC/Post polls this year,” Langer notes.

Romney finished the primary election season with the lowest favorability for a presumptive nominee in ABC/Post polls going back 28 years.





Obama is seen more positively than negatively among all adults, 53-43 percent favorable-unfavorable, but registered voters are nearly evenly split: 49-47 percent.

Obama holds his greatest advantage among women, 58 percent seeing him favorably, while 47 percent of men hold a positive view of the president – “the widest gender gap in this measure of the season,” Langer says. Romney stands better among men than women – 44 percent favorable vs. 36 percent.

The ABC News/Washington Post poll of 1,026 adults was run by Langer Research Associates of New York, N.Y.. The survey has a possible margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

Quinnipac, with CBS and the Times, found:

In Colorado: “Romney is seen as better able to manage the economy, and voters think his plans are more likely than Obama’s to help them financially. In a reversal from 2008, Romney is leading among whites – whom Obama won narrowly in 2008. White college graduates, whom Obama carried by 14 points in 2008, are now divided, as are independents. Men and voters over 35 are behind Romney, while the president has strong support from Colorado’s women and Hispanic voters.”

In Virginia: “Obama is helped by strong support from women and black voters, and he is much more likely than Romney to be seen as caring about voters’ problems. Romney keeps the race close with support from independents and a large lead among whites, especially non-college educated whites. ”

In Wisconsin: “Obama has the backing of women and voters in union households in a state that he carried easily in 2008. More see him rather than Romney as caring about them, and the President has higher favorable and job approval ratings in Wisconsin than in Colorado or Virginia.”

The survey of over 1,400 likely voters in each of the three states run July 31 through August 6 has a possible margin of error of 3 percentage points.


I hope people aren't getting complacent, unless the voter ID laws situation gets fixed in time for the election, Romney will win no matter if a majority wants him to or not because the very ones most likely to vote for Obama are the ones being affected by the more strident laws.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 03:31 pm
@izzythepush,
Gosh izzy, one might think you're patriotic.

Better be careful.

Suggesting Thomas is a supporter of Romney only draws attention to the froth on your bib. His comment didn't evidence anything even remotely approaching ignorance.

Unless I'm mistaken, your own media had reported the soft spots that Romney very demurely commented upon.

Very thankfully nothing happened at the Games, but if you think the security was fool-proof, you're mistaken since no security can keep an event like the Olympics 100% secure.

London did a great job as far as the athletes and audience was concerned and deserves whatever citywide pride it feels, but there is always a measure of luck involved.

For all you know though the attention to the soft spots led to a shoring up that was effective.

The reaction to Romney's comments was rather childish, but then Romney should have expected it and dodged the question like a truly professional politician would have. Making a big public deal about them was the sort of jingoism I thought the Brits had long since given up.

Returning to the subject with a "In your face Thomas!" post only tells us that you're not quite as different as the stereotypical American you so often mock.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 03:37 pm
@revelette,
From your post,
Quote:
Obama holds his greatest advantage among women, 58 percent seeing him favorably, while 47 percent of men hold a positive view of the president – “the widest gender gap in this measure of the season,” Langer says. Romney stands better among men than women – 44 percent favorable vs. 36 percent.


Isn't just amazing that among women, it's only 58%? That's mind-boggling when Romney-Ryan show no respect for women, and what they can do with their own bodies.
Krumple
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 03:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Isn't just amazing that among women, it's only 58%? That's mind-boggling when Romney-Ryan show no respect for women, and what they can do with their own bodies.



Actually it makes perfect sense. There isn't a huge majority of women that support pro choice. Just because abortion is legal doesn't mean because a majority want it to be.

Some women that I know are atheists and don't think it is right but they support pro choice because they know that you shouldn't impose your beliefs onto other people. It is their choice not yours to make. If you don't agree with it, then don't get one, but you shouldn't have the right to tell someone else they can't. Not only that but women will still want to get one even if abortion was made illegal and many women have died when abortion was illegal.

Why not keep it legal and safer?
parados
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 09:01 pm
@Krumple,
Quote:

Actually it makes perfect sense. There isn't a huge majority of women that support pro choice. Just because abortion is legal doesn't mean because a majority want it to be.

Let's for a moment ignore the fact that it isn't just abortion that is the issue with Romney-Ryan when it comes to women.

Unless women are diametrically opposed to men on the issue I would say your definition of majority is a little warped
http://www.pollingreport.com/abortion.htm
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 09:09 pm
@parados,
They don't want to allow abortion even when the woman/girl gets pregnant through incest or rape. They are good at voicing their advocacy for life, but they don't want any of the responsibility after the baby is born.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 09:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Romney said today that Ryan's budget "is too radical." No surprise, but Romney didn't explain why "it's too radical."
snood
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 10:37 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Do you have a link? I'd be very interested to see the context in which he'd attach the politically perjorative word "radical" to his fair-haired veep nominee.
(edit)
Not that I doubt he would - he's sort of fumble-footed that way, but I'd like to see the context.
Krumple
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 11:39 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

They don't want to allow abortion even when the woman/girl gets pregnant through incest or rape. They are good at voicing their advocacy for life, but they don't want any of the responsibility after the baby is born.


I think it's because they really don't care about people. If they were really pro life they would be pro choice. Because when abortion is made illegal there will always be a portion of women who get back alley abortions and die from infections or poor treatments. But pro lifers never seem to take this fact into consideration. They seem to delusionally think that if something is illegal then no one partakes in the activity. Or they don't care about those desperate women who die from illegal poor quality abortions. Like they deserve to die.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 11:57 pm
@snood,
This is the best I can find. It could be I heard wrong while photo-editing and watching tv.

http://news.yahoo.com/romney-seeks-distance-ryans-budget-plans-194311316.html
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2012 12:17 am
Just for fun...


 

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