H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 07:18 am


We should celebrate the fact that there is no constitutional right to vote in a presidential election.
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jcboy
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 07:26 am
No heart, no compassion!

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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 07:30 am
bump
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 07:32 am
@H2O MAN,
Bump

H2O MAN wrote:



Let's hope Romney deals with stupid unions after he is elected because Obama won't.

Non-union utility crew from Alabama in N.J. to help restore power is told to go home, report says


BTW, the Obama unemployment rate went up again.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 07:43 am
@H2O MAN,
I think you really are that stupid spurt. There is no other reason for you to whine about it going down and now you whine about it going up even though jobs were added in both cases.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 07:44 am
@parados,


Only the 'stupid' would celebrate an unemployment rate that is on the rise.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 07:45 am
@H2O MAN,
You are the one complaining about more people finding work.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 07:48 am
@parados,


Obama is the one that ruined our economy and put so many millions out of work.
sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 08:00 am
@H2O MAN,
Quite the opposite in fact.

Good chart here:

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/bobwright/UnemplChart.JPG

The maroon line is the US. Yellow line is EU countries, and light blue line is Japan. The percentages are unemployment.

You can see that everything went bad -- worldwide -- towards the end of the Bush years. Especially here. Obama stepped into that situation and through the stimulus and other measures managed to not only stem the tide but reverse it. Compare our maroon line to the yellow line, especially. (This chart was made in August, unemployment has gone down further since then.)

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/08/a-graph-that-makes-obamanomics-look-good/261249/
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revelette
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 08:04 am
The rate went up .1% because more people are looking for employment. There are now 580,000 more jobs than when Obama took office.

Quote:
WASHINGTON — U.S. employers added 171,000 jobs in October and hiring was stronger over the previous two months than first thought. The unemployment rate inched up to 7.9 percent from 7.8 percent in September.
The Labor Department's last look at hiring before Tuesday's election sketched a picture of a job market that is gradually gaining momentum after nearly stalling in the spring.

Since July, the economy has created an average of 173,000 jobs a month, up from 67,000 a month from April through June.

Still, President Barack Obama will face voters with the highest unemployment rate of any incumbent since Franklin Roosevelt. The rate ticked up because more people without jobs started looking for work. The government only counts people as unemployed if they are actively searching.

Investors were pleased by the news. The Dow Jones industrial average futures were flat before it came out at 8:30 a.m. EDT, and within minutes they were up 30 points.

The yield on the benchmark 10-year U.S. Treasury note climbed to 1.77 percent from 1.72 percent, a sign that investors were moving money out of bonds and into stocks.

Most of the details in the report were positive. The government revised the jobs figures to show that 84,000 more jobs were added than previously estimated.

The gains in October were widespread across most industries. And the percentage of Americans working or looking for work rose for the second straight month.

The economy has added jobs for 25 straight months. There are now 580,000 more jobs than when Obama took office.

But there were also signs of the economy's ongoing weakness. Average hourly pay dipped a penny to $23.58. And the number of unemployed increased 170,000 to 12.3 million.

The department said Hurricane Sandy had no noticeable impact on the report.

The economy has picked up a bit in recent weeks, mostly on the strength of consumers. Americans are more confident and buying more big-ticket items, like cars and appliances. Auto companies reported steady sales gains last month despite losing three days of business to the storm in heavily populated areas of the Northeast.

Yet businesses remain nervous about the economy's future course. Many are concerned that Congress will fail to reach a budget deal before January. If lawmakers can't strike an agreement, sharp tax increases and spending cuts will take effect next year and possibly trigger another recession.

American companies are also nervous about the economic outlook overseas. Europe's financial crisis has pushed much of that region into recession and cut into U.S. exports and corporate profits.


source
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revelette
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 08:07 am
@H2O MAN,
Apparently you don't understand, the percentage of people looking for work added a .1% to the unemployment rate, however for the second month in a row the number of people who found jobs rose. Its a good report, not great, but good.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 08:10 am
@revelette,


It's clear that you have your talking points and that you will
not allow common sense to save you... please ramble on.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 08:25 am
@parados,
When any one person complains when job are going up or down is the same as Romney; he does the same thing - taking both sides of every issue. Pretty soon, nobody knows where they stand on anything!

And yet, he's (Romney) getting 50% of the popular vote which proves to me there aren't too many sharp pencils in this country. They claim they're not confused, but looking from the outside sure makes them look confused and ignorant!
revelette
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 08:29 am
@cicerone imposter,
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2012-11-02-nationalpolls.png

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2012-11-02-battlegrounds112.png

source
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 08:30 am
@cicerone imposter,


Are you liberals taking into account that this will be an undertow election?


This mornings Labor Department jobs report confirms the US economy remains stuck in neutral.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 08:30 am
@sozobe,
I think this graph also shows how job losses under GW Bush turned into job increases under Obama. Conservatives don't understand picture words that tell the full story, but it's obvious to most that Obama turned it around - almost like a miracle.

http://i50.tinypic.com/qps3sx.jpg
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 08:39 am
@sozobe,
The other thing I just noticed about that graph -- look what Bush inherited, in 2000. 4% unemployment, the lowest of the four lines. Then look where it was when he left. Sigh.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 2 Nov, 2012 08:45 am
@sozobe,
More Americans are unemployed today than were unemployed the day
Obama was sworn in. That's a fact that escapes you and that's not optimal.

Thanks to Obama, this situation is even worse for black Americans, much worse.
 

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