Romney 2012?

But he stopped making the case.

He controlled congress for the first 2 years of his term.
You can try and say he didn't have a filibuster proof majority, but that's just an excuse.
He could have done it if he had solid support from the dems in congress, but even they couldn't stomach some of his proposals.

As for what McConnell said, so what?
All he did was articulate what the out of power party has always thought, getting back into power.
So the repubs wanted Obama to be a one term president, so what.
The dems wanted Bush and Reagan to both be one term presidents, the repubs wanted Clinton to be a one term president.
Its nothing new, but when it gets mentioned aloud you get upset.

Isn't it better to announce it publicly and let Obama work this it than hide it .

Starting back about when Romney and Ryan tied their little red wagons together for a run at the White House there has been a part of my mind that has been emitting a silent primal scream. It is an ongoing mental expression of the disgust, shock and fury I have experienced when hearing the constantly mutating lies that flow endlessly from the Rom bot
camp. My angst is exacerbated by the apparent inability of anyone in the fourth estate or anywhere else to effectively challenge the shameless duo.

I have never seen anything quite like this man and his sidekick, running for the highest office in the land, boldly flopping from one side
of an issue to the other, blithely denying statements they made on videotape hours before, looking into the eyes of America and lying their fool
koolaid-pumpin' hearts out.

I was dissapointed like many others in President Obama at the first debate , but part of me sort of felt sorry for him. He had to try to debate
that man-like thing called Mitt Romney - a creature who wouldn't know a core value if it poked him in the eye and who will say absolutely ANYTHING
if he thinks it will get him the presidency.

Has anyone else seen the likes of these two characters, the Rom bot and his boy wonder? Does anyone remember this kind of sheer volume of lies, half-truths, deceptions and denials from another presidential level politician?

Good post, snood.

Some of these republicans hate Obama more than they love/respect the truth and that is sad!

"I did not have sex with that woman"
"It depends on what the definition of is is"
"I remember black churches in Hope being burned when I was a kid"

Do any of those ring a bell with you?

Yeah, I remember those. Are you saying that those lies that clinton told (probably the only three that you could dredge up out of 8 years of Clinton administrations from over a decade ago) equivalent in your mind to the dozens of lies we can find from just the last two years of Mitt running for office?

I knew when I wrote that post that one of you guys would come running with your best effort at "But Democrats do it, too!!!" I just thought you would do better than that weak crap.

I'm not saying "but the dems did it" at all.
I was simply pointing that ALL president level politicians lie, its in their DNA to do so.
Pointing out the volume of lies is like points g out that water is wet, is an obvious statement.

BTW, those 3 were the ones I remembered off the top of my head, without looking for more.
That doesn't mean there weren't more.

There isn't always an equivalency for everything.

I maintain that Romney and Ryan are blazing new trails and setting new records for lyin ass dogs.

And go ahead and look for more - you won't find half as many from any one Dem over any period of time as I can find from just the period that Mitt romney has been pursuing the presidency.

Not only that, but the mining company owner made his workers contribute to the republicans, and forced to attend a Romney campaign tour - without pay. He told his workers that if Obama won another term, he would have to close his business.

The GOP has really gone far in order to win this election from voter suppression, to lying about all the issues of our day. Why is Romney still showing promise in this election? Shouldn't liars and cheaters be put in their place?

Why are so many Americans supporting both liars of the republican party after all the fact checks have revealed their lies one after the other?

I don't know why, C.I. - but the guesses I have about the reasons are sure not pretty.

Anyone think it means anything that Romney is losing in his home state of Michigan and in the state in which he was governor (Mass), and they are also losing Wisconsin (Ryan's home state where he's a congressman), while Obama is WAY up in Illinois and Hawaii?

I'm not disagreeing with you, at least not about the Romney-Ryan trainwreck.

Not if Congress wouldn't approve the funding for the move, and it didn't.

As excuses go, yours takes the cake for lameness. Evidently, the question was important enough for you to get on the internet and ask it on A2K. Anyone who can type a question into A2k can type it in Google, too, whether they have a job or not. Yet you chose not to do it. Whether you sit around all day or not, that's just lazy.

Speaking of low blows, this is one. It's an attempt to smear Romney with guilt by association with his father, by association with a random voter who wrote his father an unsolicited letter. I am bitterly critical of Mitt Romney about his politics, but this is not the way to criticize him.

I'm not sure how it'll pan out, but women outnumber men in Ohio by about 400,000. That's a huge handicap to overcome for Romney who wants to take away women's rights.

I think you are missing the point of the letter, Thomas, which was not trying to form any guilt by association with Mitt's father, rather it was to point out the historical environment in which Mitt grew up.

The letter was written in 1964, a year in which both Mitt and I would have been seniors in high school. The major issue of the day in the USA at that time was Civil Rights for Black people. There were fierce arguments amongst the Dixiecrats of the South and the Democrats of the North and Middle West over whether to pass the Voting Rights Act.
(Without the now extinct Moderate Republicans in the House and Senate, LBJ could have never gotten the Civil Rights Law and Voting Rights Law passed. They were the Obama-care laws of their day.)

These were the days of the March on Washington, the Freedom Riders, the bombing of churches and murders of little girls. Crowds being sprayed with fire hoses at full force or set upon by police dogs.
Now, I, watching those events as a seventeen year, became incensed that in my country such hatred and blind prejudice could not only exist but, if people like me shut up, might even prevail. I couldn't believe that some people thought that black people were not only less than they were, but further, they were not worthy of citizenship, let alone the privilege of voting. Fighting the Jim Crow Laws and the poll taxes were the first political fights I engaged in.

Now, Mitt Romney, on the other hand, must have been puzzled by all the hubbub. It was, after all, divinely determined, according to the Prophets of his Church of Latter Day Saints, that Blacks were, in fact, not equal to other human beings, that their status, not only in the Church, but in society as a whole, would always be on a lesser stratus than whites. Black men could be Mormons in 1964, but they could not become Priests, not because of their lack of education or some deficit in their acumen: they could not become Priests because their skin was black.

Passage of the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts must have seemed to seventeen year old Mitt as a rebuke of his faith. I know if I had been taught that blacks were of a lesser kind than my kind, I would be offput by a government action which confronted that 'truth' head-on.

Maybe that's why Mitt went to Paris (while on his second deferral from the draft) to preach to the French those same prejudicial values. He got there too late to meet Richard Wright, but he may have seen a copy of Cleaver's Soul on Ice in a bookstore. Maybe he picked it up.

Maybe he ran into James Baldwin or read Native Son or Another Country in a cafe??

There is nothing in the record that says that Mitt Romney ever said a mumbling word about the unfairness, the injustice, the immorality of his Church's stance on racial status and the clergy other than, when the ban was miraculously rescinded through a message from GOD when Mitt was 29 years old, he says he wept.

Joe(my tears were dry by then)Nation

In the current political climate, virtually anything seems to be in play. I am not sorry I posted it. (I took it from another a2ker off of facebook)

Joe(always perceptive)Nation, Thank you for your well thought out post that provides insight to those of us who lived through those times, but have essentially forgotten most of what happened.

IF what the GOP has been doing on top of all the lies being perpetrated by Romney-Ryan, it seems strange that anybody would question a letter written by the head of Romney's church - no matter when it was written. The content should be self-explanatory about a faith that Mitt grew up with.

That Mitt had no control over what the heads of his church wrote has no bearing on what he supports as his primary religious faith.

Especially, since he never spoke against it, and we now know his true feelings about the 47% as non-tax paying freeloaders.