I do not believe gods exist…but I do not believe there are no gods.

I'd love to take the credit -- and you're a sweetheart to suggest that I deserve it -- but we both know that the only thing keeping this thread alive is your insatiable egotism. After all, that's what got the thread started in the first place.

By the way: If you were to look at my list of things I "believe", you would not find an item that says, "I believe there are gods."

Hey, Joe, thanks for keeping this thing going.

Jeez, you really want me to be hostile and bothered, don't ya?

Anyway, allow me to take this moment to mention that among the things that I have no belief in...is that there are gods.

Also, I have no belief that there are no gods.

Yup, I do not have a belief that there are gods...and I do not have a belief that there are no gods. I just do not have any beliefs on the matter.

Nope. I could have all the "insatiable egotism" in the universe...and the thread could still go completely cold. It takes some postings to save it...and you are the person doing that. So you saved it.

I know you are being modest, but you get the credit. And my affection!

So now it's back to what you don't believe. Before it was a list of what you did believe. Well, at least it's not a list of what you don't "believe," although sometimes I can't help wishing you'd make up your "mind."

You need to keep that anger in check.

My mind IS made up, Joe.

My mind IS made up, Joe.

Why all this hostility all of a sudden? I'm merely making an observation. I certainly don't think I deserve that kind of angry response.

That doesn't sound very agnostic. I mean frank-agnostic.

No "anger" in that response at all, Joe. No hostility at all.

I am so grateful to you for continuing this thread, that there is no room for anger, bother, or hostility toward you.

You say that, but we both know that's not true. I urge you to seek help if you continue having these anger-related issues.

I know you're grateful! And really, why wouldn't you be? I doubt that you get this kind of ego-stroking in just about any other aspect of your daily life.

That's why you obsessively monitor this thread and pounce on any opportunity to respond, even if it's just to rehash the same evasive, confused, and patently absurd arguments that you've been making for pages. If I were in your shoes, I'd be grateful too that people still paid any attention to me!

And that's why I'm here.

I wasn't kidding when I said this is all about you -- but then I suspect you've known that from the start. The smile on your face is all the motivation I need to continue with this thread. True, I could volunteer to help retarded children, but I feel my time here with you is equally well spent.

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That doesn't sound very agnostic. I mean frank-agnostic.

Perhaps not to you, but to me it sounds very reasonable and very "frank-agnostic."

Joe suggested that I "make up my mind. "

My mind is "made up"...and I was informing him of it.

Here is my one question: What's a god?

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What's that? You're praising your own idea as reasonable?

Precious.

You've spent countless posts talking about how you are in no way inclined ("either way"--LOL) to form a conclusion. It seems that the only thing you're left to conclude is that you've made your mind up that you refuse to make your mind up. Ha.

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What's that? You're praising your own idea as reasonable?

Nope, I am merely responding to what you said.

But now that you mention it, yeah, I do think my ideas are reasonable.

If you want to think that to be "praising" them...feel free to do so.

I enjoy hearing things like that; you amuse me.

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Precious.

You've spent countless posts talking about how you are in no way inclined ("either way"--LOL) to form a conclusion. It seems that the only thing you're left to conclude is that you've made your mind up that you refuse to make your mind up. Ha.

Nice try, Art, but no cigar.

The “I made up my mind” had to do with what Joe was saying about my phrasing.

He seems to have a problem with my rephrasing my comments so as to make it easier for him to grasp them.

That is a completely different ball of wax from whether or not I have made up my mind on "belief" in the existence of gods or non-existence of gods.

Sorry you have trouble with subtitles, but I am always willing to help people like you.

In any case, the situation is sSorta like these questions of yours are a completely different ball of wax from other questions you might have asked.

Good to see you back, Art. I’m always interested in what you have to say.

Maybe just a tiny tsunami just to keep us on our toes.

Here is my one question: What's a god?

@Frank Apisa,
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What's that? You're praising your own idea as reasonable?


Nope, I am merely responding to what you said.

Which was about what you said...

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But now that you mention it, yeah, I do think my ideas are reasonable.

Of course you do, and you go as far as to say so explicitly.

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If you want to think that to be "praising" them...feel free to do so.

I observed your self praise prior to your permission that I observe it as such.

Frank Apisa wrote:

I enjoy hearing things like that; you amuse me.

I could never amuse you as much as you amuse yourself.

Frank Apisa wrote:

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Precious.

You've spent countless posts talking about how you are in no way inclined ("either way"--LOL) to form a conclusion. It seems that the only thing you're left to conclude is that you've made your mind up that you refuse to make your mind up. Ha.


Nice try, Art, but no cigar.

I don't smoke.

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The “I made up my mind” had to do with what Joe was saying about my phrasing.

...except you follow it with a declaration about not believing in gods.

The best improvisation artists are the ones who can keep track of what they've already said.

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He seems to have a problem with my rephrasing my comments so as to make it easier for him to grasp them.

Your phrasing is most definitely a problem.

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That is a completely different ball of wax from whether or not I have made up my mind on "belief" in the existence of gods or non-existence of gods.

...except this ball of wax was the explicit question you were being asked. So you're saying you were asked a question, and chose to answer a different question instead?

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Sorry you have trouble with subtitles, but I am always willing to help people like you.

If only Franklish threads had subtitles. It would be much easier. See, it sounds like you're speaking English, but your words mean something altogether different. How many native Franklish speakers are there in the world? I can't find the answer on wikipedia.

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In any case, the situation is sSorta like these questions of yours are a completely different ball of wax from other questions you might have asked.

Which questions? The ones you're avoiding? Yeah, those are another "ball of wax." We're still waiting.

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Good to see you back, Art. I’m always interested in what you have to say.

You're unfortunately uninterested in answering my questions, which casts a shadow on the phony politeness about being interested in the thoughts of any non-Frank on A2K.