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Hating FOX

 
 
Fedral
 
Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2004 02:22 pm
Hating FOX[/u]
Brent Bozell
February 6, 2004

The dominance of Fox News in the cable news ratings -- and what liberals see as its annoying tendency to cover topics and angles that they believe should be buried for the good of liberalism -- has led to a great amount of Fox-hating in the anything-but-"mainstream" press.

These liberal elites love to pretend that the patch of dirt where they stand is the hallowed ground of objectivity, when in reality, their idea of "mainstream" is floating out on a liberal sea, on a fanciful boat where everyone thinks Howard Dean is best classified as a political moderate, as were McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis. As, one is meant to believe, are they.

From their vantage point, which is nowhere within boom-microphone distance of the center, Fox News Channel must look like Right-Wing Kooksville. Unique in standing to the right of the ossified liberal media establishment, Fox is now regularly disparaged as the only ideological news media outlet in the United States. The rest of them are all, to use Dan Rather's self-description, "common-sense moderates."

Anyone with his feet grounded in reality realizes that in fact Fox is fairer and closer to the American center than any of the liberal outlets. Pick an issue -- global warming, taxes, homosexuality -- and Fox demonstrates the temerity to allow both sides to debate, whereas other networks still pretend that only one reasonable, quotable side exists. No wonder their audience numbers are sliding as Fox continues to climb.

The latest sad anti-Fox outburst came when the National Press Foundation decided to honor respected Fox news hound Brit Hume with its "Broadcaster of the Year" award, Geneva Overholser, a former ombudsman of the Washington Post and a whining liberal windbag if there ever was one, resigned in protest since she felt Hume and Fox practice "ideologically committed journalism."

How controversial was the Hume selection? Consider the previous winners of this award: "moderate" Dan Rather, fired New York Times editor Howell Raines, loopy leftist Ted Turner, tiresome PBS propagandist Ken Burns, and NPR bias legend Nina Totenberg, who tried to destroy conservative hero Clarence Thomas with phony-baloney sexual allegations and wished AIDS on conservative hero Jesse Helms in a TV appearance.

No one, including Overholser, resigned over any of them.

But wait, there's even more phoniness in this take-my-ball-and-go-home protest. In the Nov. 28, 1992, edition of Editor & Publisher magazine, Overholser complained that there wasn't enough ideologically committed journalism out there. "All too often, a story free of any taint of personal opinion is a story with all the juice sucked out. A big piece of why so much news copy today is boring as hell is this objectivity god," she complained. "Keeping opinion out of the story too often means being a fancy stenographer."

I saw this riotous act up close on a C-SPAN set a few years ago, as Ms. Overholser sat across the table from me and announced with a straight face and a calm voice that the Washington Post was committed to "presenting the news in a straightforward manner," while the Washington Times was only committed to "representing the conservative viewpoint."

Fox News is routinely disparaged by the Left as a hard-swinging right-wing channel because of its top attractions. Populist maverick Bill O'Reilly is not reliably conservative but is regularly rebellious about liberal pieties. Then there's Sean Hannity, who is so packed with persuasive power that liberals never seem to notice he has a liberal co-host sitting across from him every night. Neither is a news reporter, thus rendering the liberal complain moot. But that won't stop the whining.

Lost in the rage at the prime-time lineup is the performance of Brit Hume, who brought all the heft of his years of fairness covering Washington and politics at ABC to Fox's table. "Fair and balanced" are not silly marketing words to describe Hume. He earned an "A" from the Media Research Center for even-handed coverage of the Iraq war. But we're not alone.

The radical left has trouble complaining about Hume, too. A report by the anti-Iraq-liberation media critics at Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting put Hume in the middle in its guest selection: It "had fewer U.S. officials than CBS (70 percent) and more U.S. anti-war guests (3 percent) than PBS or CBS." FAIR's definition of "anti-war" may be ridiculously narrow (in their odd attempt to making liberal networks look conservative), but even FAIR credited Hume's show for giving air time to save-Saddam lobbyists like Rep. Dennis Kucinich and Rep. Fortney Stark.

So credit should be granted to the National Press Foundation for having the courage to resist the Fox-haters and honor Hume's easily recognized professionalism. And shame should be awarded to Geneva Overholser, who, by her actions, is telling the world she doesn't have an honest bone in her liberal-activist body.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2004 02:31 pm
Fedral,

I got as far as where this was supposed to argue that Fox is centrist. It's laughable. The comparison with the "American Center" is also laughable.

The "American Center" is further to the right than any nation in which I've lived. It makes little sense to relateFox to teh center of the fringe right and try to paint it as centrist.

It would be like comparing a vicious murderer to his peers in prison and trying to argue that he's an average guy of average temperment.

In short what the argument purports to do is say "Fox is centrist if you compare it to the center of a right wing statistical sample." Rolling Eyes

In any case the problem most have with Fox isn't which side they lean to but the fact that they have such an unabashed spin altogether.

I prefer news with no leaning, be it to the right or to the left. The editorializing on Fox is a poor standard for journalism.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2004 02:33 pm
I did find it interesting that nimh's study of the polls, that Fox's polls almost always showed Bush at a lower negative than the others.
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Greyfan
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2004 06:38 pm
I hope Fox's audience continues to grow. If it does, the right will have a tougher time blaming unfavorable public opinion on "liberal media bias".

Conservatives have already gotten about as popular as they can get. You can fool your true believers indefinitely, but the majority will return to the center eventually, regardless of who reads the news.
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revel
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2004 06:49 pm
I do hate fox, but I watch it, so I guess I contribute to its success. I watch it just to find out what the right is thinking and how they play every new thing that comes up. Its like a window into private republicans parties. You know the old adage about keeping your enemies closer.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 6 Feb, 2004 07:58 pm
When a piece contains the phrase 'liberal elites' within the first two paragraphs, one knows immmediately which manila folder to place that piece in, without further perusal. Surprises in the piece's conclusion are about as likely as John Ascroft admitting he and his wife kinda dig anal sex.
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billy falcon
 
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2004 01:27 pm
Fox and its chief spokesman, Bill O'Reilly, really don't believe in the United States and its form of government. There are supposed to be three branches - the judiciary, the legislative and the executive.

O'Reilly constanty inveighs against the judicial branch saying the the judiciary are subverting the will of the people. " The people" don't want gay marriages, and the courts are taking away the peoples right to be free from gay marriages.

O'Reilly seems to have forgotten that we are not a Democracy where the majority rules, but we are a Republic. In the 1950's, polls showed that over 90% of Americans believed that inter-racial marriage was immoral and should be illegal. Several state had laws prohibiting such marriages. The courts eventually threw out these laws. What happened to the will of the people?

O'Reilly and his untutored fans don't seem to see the implications of their position. A majority of the country or the majority of a single state cannot legislate that it is illegal to be a Catholic, a Jew or a Republican, for that matter. That's prevented by the constitution.

I wonder what motivates O'Reilly? He seems to want to destroy constitutional protections. What sort of government do O'Reilly and his fans want?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2004 06:58 pm
I personally don't hate Fox News--i just don't watch it. I don't watch CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC nor NBC, for that matter . . .











. . . i read.
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El-Diablo
 
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2004 07:55 pm
omg not read!

O'Reilly is a show on fox news. ITs not fox new itself, so lets not pretend O'reilly is the point of fox news. Most shows (excluding o'reilly and hannity and colmes) on fox are actually pretty balanced. They do invite both liberals and conservatives and let them have their say on everything.

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When a piece contains the phrase 'liberal elites' within the first two paragraphs, one knows immmediately which manila folder to place that piece in, without further perusal


Funny how every liberal article has "conservative elites" or if ther'ye highly liberal the "neo fascists"
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2004 08:45 pm
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Funny how every liberal article has "conservative elites"

El Diablo

Please find me one. You'll note I'm not asking much here in the way of evidence to support your claim. Just one. You said 'every liberal article', so that'll be no sweat for you to find one quickly, to return here and post a link for us.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2004 08:48 pm
I know who O'Reilly is. I don't live under a rock, i simply inform myself with the printed word as opposed to sound bites. I also listen to our local NPR talk radio while at work. I heard the Terry Gross interview of Al Franken, and her subsequent interview of O'Reilly. O'Reilly eventually got very nasty with her. My only quibble with Miss Gross was that when O'Reilly was bullying her, he demanded to know if she had been "as tough" on Al Franken. She eventually said, in a small voice, no. I was outraged. She had tried to put Franken on the spot just as much as she did with O'Reilly. The big difference, however, was that Franken just laughed and told more hysterical stories about O'Reilly and Fox News. O'Reilly went off like a cheap fire cracker--or rather, like the adolescent creep he is.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2004 08:54 pm
She wasn't any more "tough" on Oh,Really than she is on any guest. She is certainly not the queen of antagonistic interviews. Oh, really was just looking for a fight, and when he couldn't start one, he fought himself, so to speak.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2004 10:43 pm
set

If you haven't read Franken's book (Lies...), I do recommend it. He's a very funny fellow.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2004 05:59 am
No, i haven't. I'm cheap, and likely would feel i couldn't afford it--and the entire tempest in a teapot with Fox and their pet neanderthal is a big yawner for me. Franken is very entertaining, i greatly enjoyed the Terry Gross interview.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2004 06:28 am
The only FOX I watch is the Australian version of Fox Sports News.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2004 06:29 am
I've never really detected any political leaning of any kind there.
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revel
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2004 07:44 am
These are just my thoughts about the whole new cable news network.

In my opinion most of those on cable news are those that used to be on the fringes of society that didn't have a voice except on talk radio because their views were extreme. Along came cable and those fringes started buying up news channels. (I don't know what the correct term would be) They appeal to people because their beliefs are extreme. Kinda like people that like to watch car wrecks and it appeals because it is a new phase that has to run its course.

The problem now is that those people on the fringes are running our country and so are running the rest of the world since we are like it or not a super power. With the events of 9/11 everything changed and these people really played it up to push their ideological agendas.

Hopefully sooner rather than later people will return to rational thinking and we will start to have news again.

Again, this is just my own conclusions that I come up with trying to figure it all out.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2004 07:46 am
Pretty good thinking it is too.
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2004 08:37 pm
revel

The fox network and the newspaper holdings under the ownership of Rupert Murdoch share a particular political bias, not to mention a zesty love of news programming as money-maker, rather than news as social conscience or political safeguard.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2004 03:34 am
Rupert Murdoch owns it? In that case you can forget ever seeing anything of value. I stopped buying the Sydney newspaper he owns here because it de-generated into a right wing propaganda tabloid.
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