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How does Davros keep going?

 
 
Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 10:18 am
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/02/Davros_Wisher.png/200px-Davros_Wisher.png

I've been a fan of Doctor Who ever since I was a kid. I know it's a Sci-Fi show, and not to be taken seriously, but the continued survival of Davros really stretches credibility.

When we first meet Davros, creator of the Daleks he's already really old, and his body's fairly clapped out, and that's thousands and thousands of years ago. He is killed by the Daleks, then sometime in the distant future they dig him up and he's raring to go again. He would have been dust long ago.

I know the doctor's really old but he's a Timelord, and Davros is just a Kaled, which is not a lot different from you and me, if we believe Terry Nation.

He's been killed loads of times, he's universally hated, even his creations, the Daleks are contemptuous of him, and he's created them twice. What keeps him going, other than bitterness and hate?

I think it's amazing that not only did this rotting, hate filled creature make it to old age, he outlived the Daleks, and had to create them again. What is it about Davros machinery that keeps him alive, and why don't the Daleks use it?
 
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 10:39 am
@izzythepush,
I think he's addicted to 5 Hour Energy drink. Helps him get through those loooong mornings and past those even loooooooooonger afternoons.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 10:41 am
@tsarstepan,
Maybe they should put his picture on the tin.
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Ceili
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 10:43 am
I would like to get into this show, but every time I try and start... the options seem to be unending. Can someone, please, point me in the right direction. There are so many years, casts, productions, on-line, and off - ok, we don't get it on TV here in Canackistan..
Where should one begin?
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 10:49 am
@Ceili,
Start out with the first season of the current generation of the TV show, "Doctor Who" (2005). The one with Christopher Eccleston as the Doctor.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436992/
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 10:58 am
@Ceili,
The problem is that the BBC wiped a lot of the early stuff made in the 60s, because of the price of video tape. A lot of really good stuff was lost, not only Doctor Who, but some really good comedy as well. So if you wanted to watch from the beginning you couldn't.

A good place to start would be with the Christopher Ecclestone series as Doctor Who. He's the first modern doctor, the show was cancelled for a long time, and like Star Trek the Next Generation, it's quite easy to pick up even if you never watched the original series. If you want to, you can then dip in and out of the older episodes. The doctors are as follows

William Hartnell
Patrick Troughton (my own personal favourite, but it's probably got as much to do with me being a kid when they came out, as anything else)
Jon Pertwee

These three all have gaps, and it's worse with Hartnell than Troughton, and worse with Troughton than Pertwee.
Tom Baker
Peter Davison (I stopped watching at this point, I was at University)
Colin Baker
Sylvester McCoy

Show then cancelled for a long time, apart from a one off millennium special starring Paul McGann.

Christopher Ecclestone
David Tennant
Matt Smith (the current doctor)

Peter Cushing also played the doctor in the two Hammer movies.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 10:58 am
@tsarstepan,
We just crossed
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Ceili
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 11:21 am
Awesome, will do. Thanks guys. I'm sure I'll be a Dr. Who devotee in no time.
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Reyn
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 12:49 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
What keeps him going, other than bitterness and hate?

He doesn't want to give up on his fantastic pension plan, of course!

Since it dies when, and if, he were to die, he's decided he's not going!
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 12:56 pm
@izzythepush,
Tom Baker was my first Doctor! Very Happy

I just wish they made these earlier seasons more watchable in terms of DVD sets collected by season rather then individual story arcs.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 01:21 pm
@tsarstepan,
A lot of it is to do with missing tapes, a friend of mine got a copy of one Patrick Troughton four parter which comprised of the script, one episode on video, and two other episodes that were audio only. He's a real Who freak though. I can just remember the last Hartnell series 10th planet, I must have been about 3 at the time, and I was hiding behind a wall, occasionally peeking out.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 02:29 pm
@izzythepush,
Well, apparently the Daleks are/were/will forever be the technological equals of the Time Lords. There's no telling what they can do.

I just hope they never get their hands, er..., manipulators on the Doctor's magic wand. (Scratch that... "Sonic Screwdriver")
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Reyn
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 02:59 pm
@izzythepush,
I have seen the complete series twice from the very start to McCoy.

Then, everything since then, once.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 03:00 pm
@Reyn,
Are you yourself a time lord Reyn? Razz
Reyn
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 03:04 pm
@tsarstepan,
Hmmm, nyet, but I have been known to be someone that time forgot, at least in the past. Shocked Surprised Laughing
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 03:15 pm
@Reyn,
I think the first episode was filmed live, straight after JFK was assassinated. That must have been difficult, acting under those conditions.
Reyn
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 07:42 pm
@izzythepush,
Well, possibly parts of it, but definitely not the whole episode.

What immediately comes to mind is the first time the TARDIS is showing to travel and the scenes afterwards. For those times, they were quite the special effects!
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 16 Mar, 2012 07:54 pm
@Reyn,
It's amazing in that it was just a stop gap, something to fill up airspace, it wasn't intended to run for very long at all. The Daleks changed everything.
Reyn
 
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Reply Sat 17 Mar, 2012 07:47 am
@izzythepush,
Yeah, if I remember correctly, it was intended as a special, but the series took off... and all these years later...

Unfortunately, the show suffered from a lack of proper funding at times, which is why after McCoy, it was gone for quite a while.

Everyone has their favourite doctor, but each one brings their own special character to the series.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 17 Mar, 2012 08:06 am
@Reyn,
I never really saw any of the episodes with Davison/Colin Baker, as I was at Uni at the time, and had more things going on.

I understand that Colin Baker was the one that everyone blamed for it going downhill, though to be fair I never saw any of them so I can't comment. I did start watching again with Sylvester McCoy, but they made the grave error of casting Bonnie Langford as one of his assistants. She has to be one of the most annoying people of television, I can't watch her without grinding my teeth.
 

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