@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
No, you want to imply that objectivity is unattainable, by pointing out that we may not know in what reality objectively consists. That is not evidence that no objective reality exists. This is just another of your word games. That you (or anyone else) cannot state to a certainly exactly in what objective reality consists is not evidence that there is no objective reality. Nor, more importantly, does it prevent scientists, researchers, engineers--a host of highly educated and experienced individuals--from making positive contributions to human knowledge and material security and achievement based on their best understanding of in what reality consists.
In its proper place, a concept follows an object, and without an object true concepts, forms, idea, or notions are impossible... Speculation as to the nature of infinites does even rise to the level of true speculation which requires an object of speculation, since the root of the word means to look, and what can one see of infinites???...
Your assumptions and presumptions that objectivity exists when we do not have the object in hand, and are clearly dealing with infinites is a false predicate to all that follows... You want to treat reality, or existence, or even God as if an object, and you expect order based upon your experience, and so you surmise finitude out of nothing certain... Anyone and anyone else can state with certainty what are the obvious limits of knowledge even if the extent of knowledge is not relevent....And no one is stopping Scientists, based upon assumptions of order, from going step by step into the next great discovery...
There are limits to scepticism as one of my old professors pointed out... He told of one man seeing a field with many brown cow telling his companion that they were lovely brown cows only that have his companion reply that they were only brown on this side... No one is asking any scientist to not act upon his understanding of order, and to not take the next logical step... It simply does no good to think of infinites as conceivable when they are not, and the tendency of science is already sceptical, and breaks knowledge down into objective units that can be conceived, and builds upon that knowledge in the presumption of order.... They do not push it too far, and neither should you... Objective knowledge requires an object...
Your statement denying evidence against objective reality existing is a false charge because it is those making the claim for the existence of an objective reality as a positive fact who must prove it... To deny objectivity based upon the obvious is easy, but to deny the obvious requires proof, and you do not have it... You see the near side of the mountain called reality, and you presume an order making the near like the far side...Reality is much more vast than a mountain.. In fact, even of objects we can conceive of we do not know much... In trying to conceive of infinites without knowledge you limit knowledge, especially your own...
