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Is it wrong to be self-centered?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2004 03:23 pm
I'm retired - happily. Wink
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rufio
 
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2004 09:03 pm
I mean, where DID you work. I wish I had a manager like that.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 8 Feb, 2004 09:25 pm
rufio, My first stint in management was for Florsheim Shoe Company when they promoted me after 3.5 years as a field auditor to audit manager. I supervised eight to ten field auditors and a smaller number of internal auditors at Florsheim. After that, most of my career was in management positions, but not all were supervisory in nature. I was controller for several small companies, did consulting work, and worked the last 18 years of my career for nonprofit organizations as Director of Administration and Fiscal Manager where I had supervisory responsibilities. I almost flunked out from high school.
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BlueMonkey
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2004 12:41 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
BlueMonkey, Before you start preaching to me, you should know who you are talking to. It's very evident to me you know nothing about me. c.i.


ditto
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BlueMonkey
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2004 12:46 pm
kickycan wrote:
C.I.

Monkeys throw crap. He can't help himself.


I can but that would mean I would have to stop eating. Then I wouldn't be throwing crap I would just be cranky. That is worse.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 14 Feb, 2004 07:56 pm
From www.m-w.com
Main Entry: self-cen·tered
Pronunciation: -'sen-t&rd
Function: adjective
1 : independent of outside force or influence : SELF-SUFFICIENT
2 : concerned solely with one's own desires, needs, or interests
- self-cen·tered·ly adverb
- self-cen·tered·ness noun

This definition interpreted literally means a person who does not or cannot take into consideration the effects of her/his actions on others. It also means such a person does not or cannot take into consideration the probable effects of other people's consequent reactions on her/him. Neither limitation is in her/his long term self-interest.

I think it wrong to not do what is probably in one's own long term self-interest, because such behavior will probably limit the quality and/or the length of one's term.
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Individual
 
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Reply Sat 14 Feb, 2004 07:58 pm
Most people keep forgetting that I already established a definition in my first post. Forget what the dictionary says.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 14 Feb, 2004 08:07 pm
Individual wrote:
Most people keep forgetting that I already established a definition in my first post. Forget what the dictionary says.


Laughing

Now that is self-centered according to the dictionary's definition. You simply offered or specified your definition. You did not establish your definition.

It appears to me that you proposed a change in the meaning of self-centered so as to eliminate or at least moderate its wrongness. So the question you appear to me to be insisting on would limit us to discussing whether your kind of self-centered is wrong. That narrows the discussion. Is that truly what you want to accomplish?
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BlueMonkey
 
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Reply Sat 14 Feb, 2004 09:02 pm
This entire thing is to make up a new definition for a word that has been a round longer than any of you have been alive.

You can't make a bad word sound good. Nice try. Game over. Try again.
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Individual
 
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Reply Sat 14 Feb, 2004 09:08 pm
Stop being so pessimistic. There are a plethora of definitions out there waiting to be picked, but I chose the ripest one for my specific cause. If you can't stomach it, then don't eat it.
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BlueMonkey
 
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Reply Sat 14 Feb, 2004 09:09 pm
I will eat whatever I want and deal with the indigestion later. Thanks for the warning though.
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Individual
 
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Reply Sat 14 Feb, 2004 09:13 pm
Be sure to take some tums, then.
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Individual
 
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Reply Sat 14 Feb, 2004 09:14 pm
Alright, if anyone else would like to take a crack at my question. Please be aware that I have already suggested a definition.
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BlueMonkey
 
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Reply Sat 14 Feb, 2004 09:14 pm
Yeah, becaues I like tums. They taste like candy. mmmmm candy.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Sun 15 Feb, 2004 12:55 am
Re: Is it wrong to be self-centered?
Individual wrote:
People seem to use one ultimate insult that really leaves a sting and I hope to alleviate that pain by showing that the motives behind the insult are completely unjustified.

In order to prove my theory, we have to create a new definition of the adjective that goes beyond the popular meaning. Self-centered should mean that you are centered around yourself, not that you are an excessive egoist. Regardless, centering your life around yourself still sounds bad. But it isn't.


There is no way that I can see for someone to argue against you on this, given the definition you put forth. But that doesn't mean that the motives behind the insult are unjustified.

If someone insults you by saying you are self-centered, they are not using your definition. Your definition is not the common definition of the word, therefore the sting of the insult is still there. I could say that if someone calls you a jackass, what they really mean is that you are hardworking, but that's not going to change the fact that what people mean by it is that you are . . . well . . . a jackass.
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Individual
 
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Reply Sun 15 Feb, 2004 01:01 am
I was hinting the fact that most people call others self-centered without thinking why they are. Most of the time, people are shy or busy. And I think that most people know this subconsciously and know that they mean what my definition was, yet exaggerate to make a point.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Sun 15 Feb, 2004 01:06 am
I see what you were getting at, but I believe that people don't define self-centered the way you have. I think that it is commonly used as a synonym for selfish, or self-absorbed.
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Individual
 
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Reply Sun 15 Feb, 2004 01:08 am
Yes, and...

Were you even paying attention when you read that? Smile
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kickycan
 
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Reply Sun 15 Feb, 2004 01:11 am
I'm just trying to give you an argument. I thought you would appreciate my unselfish effort to keep your thread going. I'm so not self-centered Smile
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Individual
 
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Reply Sun 15 Feb, 2004 01:16 am
Yup, whatever...Ted... Very Happy
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