Leon Panetta Predicts Israel Will Bomb Iran This Spring (2012)

Interesting that the USS Abraham Lincoln's crossing through the Strait of Hormuz is one of the most peaceful things about the standoff. Bombings in Delhi and Bangkok and a failed attempt in Georgia. Where next?

I have to admit, it is fun indulging the psychopaths here on A2K.



Sorry, but I refuse to enable your delusions. I never said that Iran's animosity was primarily based on the Palestinian issue. Get help.



A nuclear strike would be an absolutely stupid way to respond to the “crisis” that you mention. For all they’re worth these missiles amount to glorified model rockets with explosives, and neither the US, nor N Korea, nor Pakistan would be asinine enough to respond to these attacks with nukes. The North Korean leadership may have mental issues, but they don’t come close to approaching you in that regard. You're an absolute loon.



Really. I say that in light of the fact that Israel is that region’s hegemon. I agree that a legitimate objective for both is to hinder a single power seizing the region. Iran would be able to counter Israel’s hegemony with nukes.



You’re arguing that along with checks against Chinese and Russian hegemony, a check to US hegemony is legitimate?

I agree with you.



I agree about hindering any country’s hegemony. Taking into account the gist of your positions concerning geopolitics, it is you that has **** behind your ears when you say that opposition to US hegemony is legitimate. Do you not keep up with the very crap you yourself write?



I just want to be sure about what you’re trying to say.

The Syrian people have a right to exist. The Syrian (Assad) regime as it represses the peoples of Syria does not have a right to exist. Likewise, the people of Israel have a right to exist. The Zionist regime in Israel, as it necessarily represses the Palestinian peoples in order to exist, does not have a right to exist.



Talk about specious assumptions.



Ditto.



I really, really am making this argument.



Again, I really, really am making this argument.



You don’t explain why you believe this is absurd.



Because up to now all we have is speculation and circumstantial evidence that they’re seeking nukes.



See option C above.



Your funny jokes notwithstanding, so, you’re saying that the CIA and Mossad don’t support the secret police of son-of-a-bitch dictators that they consider their very own? It’s difficult to get a grasp of your position when all you do is joke and spew irrelevant nonsense. If you don’t agree with what I’ve said, explain why.



Your completely irrelevant assumptions about my emotions aside, are you saying that the CIA and Mossad don’t support the Iranian opposition? See my response above to your foolishness.



How is that cartoonish?



Ok.



I’ve read the histories of the US and Israel. You might want to try it. Careful though, you seem to be the kind of person who’s head would hurt in this endeavor. It’s probably best that you stick to watching FoxNews.

Here is an important piece that covers the Iranian mindset relative to Israel.


'Kill all Jews and annihilate Israel!' Iran's Ayatollah lays out legal and religious justification for attack
Israel Could Be Wiped Out in Nine Minutes, Manifesto Claims

By Reza Kahlili, WorldNetDaily.com, February 4, 2012

The Iranian government, through a website proxy, has laid out the legal and religious justification for the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of its people.

The doctrine includes wiping out Israeli assets and Jewish people worldwide.

Calling Israel a danger to Islam, the conservative website Alef, with ties to Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said the opportunity must not be lost to remove "this corrupting material. It is a "'jurisprudential justification" to kill all the Jews and annihilate Israel, and in that, the Islamic government of Iran must take the helm."

The article, written by Alireza Forghani, an analyst and a strategy specialist in Khamenei's camp, now is being run on most state-owned sites, including the Revolutionary Guards' Fars News Agency, showing that the regime endorses this doctrine.

Because Israel is going to attack Iran's nuclear facilities, Iran is justified in launching a pre-emptive, cataclysmic attack against the Jewish state, the doctrine argues.

On Friday, in a major speech at prayers, Khamenei announced that Iran will support any nation or group that attacks the "cancerous tumor" of Israel. Though his statement was seen by some in the West as fluff, there is substance behind it.

Iran's Defense Ministry announced this weekend that it test-fired an advanced two-stage, solid-fuel ballistic missile and boasted about successfully putting a new satellite into orbit, reminding the West that its engineers have mastered the technology for intercontinental ballistic missiles even as the Islamic state pushes its nuclear weapons program.

The commander of the Revolutionary Guards, Brig. Gen. Seyyed Mehdi Farahi, stated in August that the Safir missile, which is capable of transporting a satellite into space, can easily be launched parallel to the earth's orbit, which will transform it into an intercontinental ballistic missile. Western analysts didn't believe this would happen until 2015. Historically, orbiting a satellite is the criterion for crediting a nation with ICBM capability.

Forghani details the Islamic duty of jihad as laid out in the Quran for the sake of Allah and states that "primary jihad," according to some Shiite jurists, can only occur when the Hidden Imam, the Shiites' 12th Imam Mahdi, returns. Shiites believe Mahdi''s return will usher in Armageddon.

In the absence of the hidden Imam, Forghani says, "defensive jihad" could certainly take place when Islam is threatened, and Muslims must defend Islam and kill their enemies. To justify such action, Alef quotes the Shiites' first imam, Ali, who stated "Waging war against the enemies with whom war is inevitable and there is a strong possibility that in near future they will attack Muslims is a must and the duty of Muslims." In this regard, Ayatollah Khamenei has issued a fatwa in which he has even authorized carrying out primary jihad in the age of the absence of the Hidden imam under the authorization of Vali Faghih.

The article then quotes the Quran (Albaghara 2:191-193): "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers] … and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

It is the duty for all Muslims to participate in this defensive jihad, Forghani says. A fatwa by the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini made it clear that any political domination by infidels over Muslims authorizes Muslims to defend Islam by all means. Iran now has the ICBM means to deliver destruction on Israel and soon will have nuclear warheads for those missiles.

In order to attack Iran, the article says, Israel needs the approval and assistance of America, and under the current passive climate in the United States, the opportunity must not be lost to wipe out Israel before it attacks Iran.

Under this pre-emptive defensive doctrine, several Ground Zero points of Israel must be destroyed and its people annihilated. Forghani cites the last census by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics that shows Israel has a population of 7.5 million citizens of which a majority of 5.7 million are Jewish. Then it breaks down the districts with the highest concentration of Jewish people, indicating that three cities, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and Haifa, contain over 60 percent of the Jewish population that Iran could target with its Shahab 3 ballistic missiles, killing all its inhabitants.

Forghani suggests that Iran's Sejil missile, which is a two-stage rocket with a trajectory and speed that make it impossible to intercept, should target such Israeli facilities as: the Rafael nuclear plant, which is the main nuclear engineering center of Israel; the Eilun nuclear plant; another Israeli reactor in Nebrin; and the Dimona reactor in the nuclear research center in Neqeb, the most critical nuclear reactor in Israel because it produces 90 percent enriched uranium for Israel's nuclear weapons.

Other targets, according to the article, include airports and air force bases such as the Sedot Mikha Air Base, which contains Jericho ballistic missiles and is located southwest of the Tel Nof Air Base, where aircraft equipped with nuclear weapons are based. Secondary targets include power plants, sewage treatment facilities, energy resources, and transportation and communication infrastructures.

Finally, Forghani says, Shahab 3 and Ghadr missiles can target urban settlements until the Israelis are wiped out.

Forghani claims that Israel could be destroyed in less than nine minutes and that Khamenei, as utmost authority, the Velayete Faghih (Islamic Jurist), also believes that Israel and America not only must be defeated but annihilated.

The radicals ruling Iran today not only posses over 1,000 ballistic missiles but are on the verge of ICBM delivery and have sufficient enriched uranium for six nuclear bombs even as they continue to highly enrich uranium despite four sets of U.N. sanctions.

What the Ayatollah says is inflammatory and offensive but it's not the same as what Israel is doing to the Palestinians on a daily basis. Sticks and stones and all that.

I'm sure the Ayatollah and Netanyahu are great pals underneath. Israel's aggression towards Iran and the Palestinians justifies the regime crushing opposition, and the Ayatollah's belicose rhetoric excuses the building of illegal settlements and keeps the far right in power. They're two sides of the same coin. Both are terrified of the Arab Spring.

Finn decided to look the other way a long time ago. He is unable to accept that people can be motivated solely out of sympathy for the Palestinian people. He obviously is motivated by far less noble sentiments, so accuses others of his own shortcomings.

Oh, so there are nutcase extremists like Alireza Forghani with ties to the Iranian government. I guess that serves as a counter to the nutcase extremists within the Israeli government like Avigdor Lieberman who calls for the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from Israel.

Nonsense. With very few exceptions, the only people who are depraved enough to support the Palestinians, are people who are depraved enough to also support sending innocent people to prison.

The Palestinians are evil. End of story.

Any FBI profilers around your way Oralboy? You tick all the boxes.
1) Gun nut.
2) Obsession with violent computer games.
3) Recluse who hates towns/other people.
4) Narcissist.
5) Low IQ.
6) Inability to see things in terms other than absolutes.
7) Obsession with violent sex/ necrophilia.
8) Fear of the Death Penalty.
9) Avatar name derived from obsession with nuclear weapons/secret wish to be sodomised.


Just what have you got buried in your garden?

Liar.





You trash shouldn't run around falsely accusing your betters of your own stupidity.





Liar/Liar.





What "fear"? You mean "opposition to"?

I suppose you support the execution of innocent people as well. Figures that someone who supports the Palestinians would support executing innocent people.





Liar.

So, BCBBB. like I said, Low IQ.
http://able2know.org/reply/post-4894081

You trash shouldn't run around falsely accusing your betters of your own stupidity.

C. Low IQ, predictable response, lack of imagination=Sad twat.

You trash shouldn't run around falsely accusing your betters of your own stupidity.

Even when your predictability is pointed out to you, you still act in a predictable manner. I'm sorry I said you had a low IQ, that should be very low IQ.

You trash shouldn't run around falsely accusing your betters of your own stupidity.

who knows, the Mossad works in strange and mysterious ways

You get stupider by the minute.

You may have a point, the Guardian said these bombings were very sloppy for an intelligence agency, unless that agency wanted them to be sloppy of course.

You trash shouldn't run around falsely accusing your betters of your own stupidity.

Mossad had nothing to do with them. The bombings are Iran's way of throwing a tantrum.