Leon Panetta Predicts Israel Will Bomb Iran This Spring (2012)

Given their history where they had even had attacked a US naval spy ship flying a US flag killing US sailors and gotten alway with it good luck on limiting their actions because of fear of what the US might do afterward to them.

That was a case of mistaken ID. That happens in war.

Oralloy wrote:

That was a case of mistaken ID. That happens in war.

LOL and BULLSHIT..............on the mistaken ID story.

The ship was clearly mark and flying a US flag in daylight.

They knew just what the hell they was attacking.

The ship was clearly mark and flying a US flag in daylight.

They knew just what the hell they was attacking.

Attack survivors contacted in 2007, by John M. Crewdson for a Chicago Tribune article about the attack, "to a man" rejected Israel's mistaken identity explanation. Lt. Gen. Marshall Carter, the director of the NSA, told Congress that the attack "couldn't be anything else but deliberate." The deputy director of the NSA, Louis Tordella, stated that the attack "might have been ordered by some senior [Israeli] commander on the Sinai Peninsula who wrongly suspected that the LIBERTY was monitoring his activities."

There is another deterrent against attack: not being a rogue nation in the first place.

. My city is a sea port.

My city is a sea port.

I wish the hell I could find the 1940s short story by Heinlein
of New York being wiped out by a nuke hidden on a ship in the New York City harbor.

Poor New York always on the top of the target list in fiction and in real life.

Three days after Israel had launched the six- day war, Egyptian prisoners in the Sinai had become a nuisance. There was no place to house them, not enough Israelis to watch them, and few vehicles to transport them to prison camps. But there was another way to deal with them.

As the Liberty sat within eyeshot of El Arish, eavesdropping on surrounding communications, Israeli soldiers turned the town into a slaughterhouse, systematically butchering their prisoners. An eyewitness recounted how in the shadow of the El Arish mosque, they lined up about 60 unarmed Egyptian prisoners, hands tied behind their backs, and then opened fire with machine guns until the pale desert sand turned red.

This and other war crimes were just some of the secrets Israel had sought to conceal since the start of the conflict. An essential element in the Israeli battle plan seemed to have been to hide much of the war behind a carefully constructed curtain of lies: lies about the Egyptian threat, lies about who started the war, lies to the US president, lies to the UN Security Council, lies to the press, lies to the public. Thus, as the American naval historian Dr Richard K Smith noted, "any instrument which sought to penetrate this smoke screen so carefully thrown around the normal 'fog of war' would have to be frustrated".

They were not trying to surrender. As such it is a war crime, but if you want to twist the facts to fit in with your own internal narrative, then go ahead. It's what you usually do.

oralloy wrote:

There is another deterrent against attack: not being a rogue nation in the first place.

And "rogue nation" means???

To some, it means not doing what the United Nations indicates is rogue...which would often make the United States a rogue nation.

Most of the time when used here in the United States, not being a "rogue nation" means--doing whatever we say we want you to do.

Since you seem to think the problem can be solved in a simple way: Which do you see "rogue nation" to be.