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Exactly what is "European-style Socialism?"

 
 
Reply Thu 2 Feb, 2012 02:33 pm
Politicians and bloggers have been throwing around that term quite a bit lately. I've searched briefly for examples and definitions of what exactly is "European-style Socialism" and only find people using the term, not anything that defines the term and points to specific countries and practices in Europe.

Can anyone explain this for me?
 
saab
 
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Reply Thu 2 Feb, 2012 02:37 pm
@Butrflynet,
I canĀ“t explain it either - as it is different in the different European countries.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 2 Feb, 2012 02:51 pm
@Butrflynet,
Butrflynet wrote:
Exactly what is "European-style Socialism?"

It's a code word for "scary change." Vague enough not to invite criticism, but triggering xenophobia.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 2 Feb, 2012 02:52 pm
@DrewDad,
Germany's socialism seems to be doing quite well, by the way.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 2 Feb, 2012 04:35 pm
I'm beginning to think that Obama haters just play madlibs using words with negative connotations.

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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Thu 2 Feb, 2012 04:59 pm
@Butrflynet,
Ha, ha, B'net. You have been joined by H20 man with his wisdom about Obama.
There goes the neighborhood.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 2 Feb, 2012 05:07 pm
@Butrflynet,
Butrflynet wrote:
Politicians and bloggers have been throwing around that term quite a bit lately. I've searched briefly for examples and definitions of what exactly is "European-style Socialism" and only find people using the term, not anything that defines the term and points to specific countries and practices in Europe.

Can anyone explain this for me?

Not me, and I think you're asking the wrong question. The very vagueness of the term "European-style Socialism" is an important part of its appeal to American conservatives. One the one hand, you have "European-style Socialists" like Lukashenko in Belarus. They torture their opposition in jails, would still run Gulags in Siberia if they were in charge of Siberia, and have the government run virtually the whole economy. On the other hand, you have "European-style Socialists" like Tony Blair in Britain. They approve of free markets, and merely supplement them with a decent safety net.

These two sorts of politicians have nothing to do with one another. But by calling them both "European-style Socialists", American conservatives can smear America's very moderate social reformers with the stench of the Gulag and the KGB. So don't get confused when you don't understand what "European-style Socialism" means. That's the point. You're not supposed to understand it!
RABEL222
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2012 10:38 am
@Thomas,
Paranoid=conservative
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failures art
 
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Reply Fri 3 Feb, 2012 02:38 pm
If it's a drink, it doesn't have ice in it.

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That's how you know it's European.
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brffree
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 01:38 am
Just check out Sweden - they got socialism there.
Ceili
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 01:58 am
The irony in this statement is almost every country on the planet would be considered socialist by the mysterious American litmus test. For years it was the scary Canadian socialists. I guess the new objective is to strive to create fear with the exotic. The EU has standardized expectations of health care and holidays that are foreign concepts in the US. And somehow... this creates fear. Go figure.
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saab
 
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Reply Sun 13 May, 2012 03:53 am
@brffree,
Sweden has not got socialism.
Sweden is a social democratic country, and at the moment the government is an alliance between the more bourgois parties.
The Swede is in no way a socialist, a conservativ Swede would as a rule not call someone from the other party a socialist either. Depending on the other person you would maybe call him a sosse.
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