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What are some good resources for drawing cartoony fight scenes?

 
 
Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 12:29 am
Hello. I am working on a cartoony action adventure comic book as opposed to a more realistic one.I bought the book, Draw Fight Scenes Like a Pro, thinking it would help me- it didn't really help because it is showing you how to draw realistic fight scenes in comics. What are some good resources for drawing cartoony fight scenes? The only things I could come up with is looking at stills from Asterix comics and Popeye cartoons/comics. This is what comes to mind:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LtVoIKa4fPA/Tfh6auxfoVI/AAAAAAAAAg4/-4h3bYyiUDY/s1600/asterix-2.jpg
http://blog.uncovering.org/archives/uploads/2007/070612_blog.uncovering.org_luta-asterix-1.jpg
http://www.skyscanner.net/news/Asterixcover-asterix_the_gaul.jpg

Please help. Thank you.
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saab
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 12:49 am
Another question...
You do not use cartoon drawings to make cartoon fight scenes or other scenes.
You use human beings to get the correct movements and then from there you tranfere them to an animal.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 01:04 am
@saab,
I have a book on how to draw fight scenes but that is showing you how to draw them realistically - that is not what I am looking for. That book I have doesn't really help.

My characters are ANTHROPOMORPHIC. They stand erect.

Do you have any suggestions for cartoony sources to draw from?

What suggestions for drawing fight scenes would you suggest?
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 01:13 am
@saab,
You look at fighting poses and make them more cartoony and exaggerated. I know how to make some poses like that.

What is wrong with using cartoon sources?
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 01:20 am
When are doing something CARTOONY it is all about exaggeration:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tP1vwr_UM1g/R4uMDAw6c9I/AAAAAAAAAaU/r-3QzGS8xEw/s400/Asterix%2BMagic%2BPotion.jpg
saab
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 01:23 am
@JGoldman10,
Why do you ask all these questions, when you know the answers anyway???????
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 01:24 am
@saab,
I am ASKING do you know of any other CARTOONY sources to draw from? You gave me a response that didn't answer the question.

Asterix and Popeye comics are the only ones I can think of.

I am not doing a realistic-looking comic. I am working with HUMANIZED characters.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 01:31 am
@saab,
Do you read comics?
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 01:42 am
I just found this:
http://www.thefightnerd.com/yogi-bear-mma-storyboards

That is part of what I am talking about.
Ragman
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 05:29 am
@JGoldman10,
There's a fly in this ointment you are concocting. If you're documenting fight scenes, then your method is hardly Christian, isn't it? Aren't Christians supposed to turn the other cheek? Your fight scenes are sending a bad message to children about violence. Isn't the world a violent enough place. Whre are your Christian values of peace and brotherhood?

Will you always just keep obsessing about minute details and NEVER drawing them yourself? My thought is that market research about who and what market there is for your comics is far more important. You can't be making any money continuing to waste your time sitting in front of the computer thinking about thinking.

Do you think Henry Ford waited for Chrysler Brothers to get their model to run? They just took the best shot and stopped futzing around. What difference does it make what others are doing or how they did it?

If it were me doing this, I think that it's more important to get the product out there before the Messiah comes. When you die and get the call at the Pearly Gates, they won't accept that you are STILL researching how to die and you'll get back to them when you are done.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 06:18 am
@Ragman,
Mr. Ragman, they are going to do more than "bopping" - they are going to use tech, use plans, beat the villains at their own game. In some stories the heroes will become superheroes and fight supervillains and other menaces that they can't handle in their normal strengths.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 06:28 am
@Ragman,
What message do Popeye cartoons send to kids?
Ragman
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 06:37 am
@JGoldman10,
Not a very good one. In fact, over the years it has been heavily criticized as too violent as all violent cartoons (for example as Bugs Bunny's character Road Runner) have been.

You should know that accutely being a Christian who is trying to preach love and Christian values with your comic. Unless what you are preaching is continuing the hypocricy, you'd be advised to eliminate the violent fight scenes.
saab
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 06:50 am
You are lost in details - and fighting animals. Stick with your own country and don´t try to be international. You can´t, you won´t.
There us a course in cartoons at the University of Malmö. It sure is a bit different to your ideas. You try to do things which just delate your goal. There they learn how to broaden their minds and knowledge.
The course aims to give fundamental theoretical and practical knowledge of comics and visual storytelling from an international perspective. The course focuses on Franco Belgian, American, and Japanese comics cultures.

The aim of the course is to combine theory and praxis: analysis and theory with their application in visual storytelling: The course offers methods of research into cultural backgrounds, visual methods of narrating and technical production in international comics cultures. It also introduces related arts, media, and cultural theory. These theoretical and analytical findings are applied, tested and possibly expanded in a) the analysis of exemplary material but b) mainly in the active production of visual storytelling. By combining academic reflection with the production of visual storytelling tests all related assumptions on the mechanisms of graphic storytelling - it also enables the participants of the course to develop their individual storytelling and production skills further.

By researching and applying these specific cultures and their theories and methods for narrating and visualising, the foundation is laid for individual expression and style that is familiar with the international market. The course culminates in a substantial project of novel-character. The course is taught in English language.







jcboy
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 06:50 am
@JGoldman10,
Quote:
They stand erect.


Where can I get me one of these comic books?
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 06:52 am
@Ragman,
Darkwing Duck was violent- in fact it was probably one of the most un-Disney like things they ever did:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkwing_Duck

Duck Dodgers the series was violent:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_Dodgers_(TV_series)
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 06:54 am
@saab,
No- I don't want to do that. It will get boring if I don't. My characters will visit other countries. SOME stories will take place there. Watch some American action cartoons - some of the characters visit other countries.

They are going to VISIT other countries not live there.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 06:55 am
@jcboy,
What is wrong with you?
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 07:00 am
What does all this side talk have to do with the topic?

I Googled pics of bar fights and just found this:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V43ijzLI8FA/TpOIoGUGJuI/AAAAAAAAAXI/Bh5_PYt_iEY/s1600/Incident_bar_fight.jpg
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001586255/5312876472_hoboken_bar_fights_feb_2008_xlarge.jpeg
Ragman
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 07:05 am
@JGoldman10,
We all ask you the same thing. Hypocricy is clearly one of the things that is wrong with what you keep repeating here. Violence is un-Christian, and you know it. Stop glorifying violence.

Of course, you won't listen to anyone's advice. in fact, my guess is that you'll be criticized by your own whacko sect of fake Christians. They'd be fake too if they saw the violence and your glorification and didn't object.

So too is it sinful unrelentingly talking about drawing sexless fantasy characters but never actually doing it. Being unproductive is sinful..sloth is one of those no-nos on the hell-fire damnation list, I believe.
 

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