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ANcient Rome versus Modern America

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 09:04 am
@jespah,
Quote:
Roman matrons often did not go out without an escort.


However it was not uncommon for women to have large influence as individuals in the society and they was not look down on as women are in many current middle east countries. For example they had the power to divorce their husbands.

There was no police force as we would understand it in the early Rome Republic so body guards for important people was common and in a large numbesr of cases the guard was make up of arm slaves.
djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 10:26 am
@OmSigDAVID,
in my mind the specific question is about the actuality of ancient rome and modern america, the history of modern america is very small, the world history known by modern america is a different thing
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2011 05:35 am
@djjd62,
Yes.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2011 05:48 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
Roman matrons often did not go out without an escort.
BillRM wrote:
However it was not uncommon for women to have large influence as individuals in the society
and they was not look down on as women are in many current middle east countries.
For example they had the power to divorce their husbands.

There was no police force as we would understand it in the early Rome Republic
so body guards for important people was common and in a large numbesr of cases the guard was make up of arm slaves.
True. Everyone was expected to take care of himself.

That continued in America thru the 18OOs & early 19OOs.
In NYC, the Police Dept. got into business in 1845.
It was among the very earliest of police dept.s in America.

Soon thereafter another, rival police dept. began in NYC
and the 2 police dept.s went to war with one another on the steps of City Hall
when 1 of them tried to arrest the Mayor, Fernando Wood.





David
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2011 06:20 am
@OmSigDAVID,

Yes and the Roman fire department was privately own and would show up with an agent who would offer to buy the burning building from you at a fire sale price.

The longer the building burn the less the agent would offer you and once you sold the property they would then put the fire out for the new owner.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2011 06:29 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Yes and the Roman fire department was privately own and would show up with an agent who would offer to buy the burning building from you at a fire sale price.

The longer the building burn the less the agent would offer you and once you sold the property they would then put the fire out for the new owner.
What is your point ?


[Be careful, Bill: your English is getting a lot better.
U r forgetting to put in the mistakes !]
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2011 06:36 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
What is your point ?


An example of the wonder of your ideal society where everyone is on his own.

Of course there was many others examples of such in the Roman Republic such as how pay mobs/gangs were used as a means to power.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2011 06:41 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
What is your point ?


An example of the wonder of your ideal society where everyone is on his own.
Within a framework of laissez faire capitalism,
fire dept.s can be brawt into being.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2011 06:50 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Within a framework of laissez faire capitalism,
fire dept.s can be brawt into being.


Hell talk about laissez faire capitalism by the end of the Republic whole legions was own and control by the same gentleman who own the Rome "fire department".

Oh a story was just was in the news a few months ago as how a town fire department stood by and allowed a man home to burn to the ground as it was outside the town borders and he did not pay extra to have used of the town fire department.

The firemen did however carefully protect his neighbors homes that had paid the town for this protection.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2011 06:02 pm
@BillRM,
1) I respectfully decline to believe that he OWNED everyone in the Legion, Bill,
the same as Ike did not own the troops under his command.

2) The philosophy of the fire dept.s was:
"no contract, no work".





David
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 10:16 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
I respectfully decline to believe that he OWNED everyone in the Legion, Bill,
the same as Ike did not own the troops under his command.


They was his to command and he was the pay master. The legions was not under senate control even in theory.

An legionaries who did not obey order met a hard death indeed to say nothing about the charming habit of picking every tenth man in line and killing him as punishment for a unit not obeying commands.



OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 10:26 am
@BillRM,
That 's decimation.
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Flexicon
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jan, 2012 04:50 pm
@Ragman,
lol......i knw ryt
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Flexicon
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jan, 2012 04:52 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
well,it isn't an assignment.........just reasearching,wondering
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Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Mon 2 Jan, 2012 06:21 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

You might wish to look into the aspect that a large percent of the US foundering fathers greatly respect the early Roman Republic and some of our government institutions that they set up reflected that fact.


That is an absolutely GREAT phrase, Bill!!! I love it. Now I know why some parts of the Constitution seem f**ked up -- those ole boys were foundering. Laughing Laughing
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