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was clearly in order = was clearly needed?

 
 
Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2011 10:19 am

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Study authors: it taxes us to criticize our own work. However, authors should lay out critical issues for examination. The authors of the research paper did include some problems with the methodology and mentioned previous inconsistent findings. However, a prominent panel included in their paper, labelled "Research in Context", cited only studies that found increased risk of acquisition. A more balanced representation was clearly in order. The issues of condom use and the increase in genital viral shedding that was seemingly inadequate to account for the transmission risk were not discussed, even though six authors co-authored another paper, from essentially the same study population, quantifying shedding's overall positive relationship with transmission.
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2011 11:42 am
@oristarA,
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was clearly in order = was clearly needed?

Yes.

A more balanced representation was clearly in order/clearly needed/clearly called for
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2011 12:06 pm
@oristarA,
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was clearly in order = was clearly needed?
not exactly

In order means in keeping with the rules,
or proper
or legitimate.

Sometimes "in order" has been used to imply a good choice.
Your contextual paragraf appears to mean that it was required.

By the terms of Robert's Rules of Order, some things are out of order.

Something can be in order (meaning not illegitimate), yet not be "clearly NEEDED".
For example, I have a right to wear a green hat; that IS in order,
yet it is NOT "clearly needed" that I do so.





David
izzythepush
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2011 12:44 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
David, why not answer the question within the actual context? In this context 'was clearly in order,' does mean 'was clearly needed.' When you take things out of context you muddy the water.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2011 02:03 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
David, why not answer the question within the actual context?
I DID that; q.v.
I said that: "Your contextual paragraf appears to mean that it was required."


izzythepush wrote:
In this context 'was clearly in order,' does mean 'was clearly needed.'
When you take things out of context you muddy the water.
We r addressing a person whose first language is NOT English.

It shoud be brought to her attention that this particular usage
is NOT universally applicable.





David
McTag
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2011 04:43 pm
@izzythepush,

Izzy is right, David is wrong here, or at least unhelpful.

Another example: We came in famished and a bit chilled from our walk, so a hot meal was in order.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2011 09:47 pm
Thank you all.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 5 Nov, 2011 03:37 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

We r addressing a person whose first language is NOT English.

Yes, and they were rephrasing something to show that in this instance they understood what was being said. You seem to have lost sight of that, we're talking about a particular instance, not all possible uses of a phrase. Answer the question asked, not the one in your brain.
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